UN votes 170-6 on Palestinian Right to Self-determination : palestine

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Democrats won't even symbolically support the Palestinians' right to self-determination, even on their way out after losing an election!

OOF!

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shows they were never going to end the genicide.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They at least didnt recognize the settlements which Trump is doing. So dont do the both sides bullshit.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

There's no reason for Biden on the way out to not pause all weapons from the US to Isreal. The UN gave Biden an opportunity to let Palestine become internationally recognized before Trump takes office. Biden still said no to both. Even if Trump could reverse those changes, Biden would have saved some lives.

Biden is a devout Catholic, so that means he believes the rapture can't happen until Isreal is home to all jews. Of course zionest don't believe that, they are just taking Christian fundamentalist fever dream and using it for colonizing Palestinian land. An aspect of this whole conflict people aren't talking about.

[+] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world -10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Enjoy your Muslim ban 2.0 lol

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

First I'm not Muslim and I wasn't banned the last time Trump was president. Second and far more important, as bad as a ban is, it is still not as bad as genocide. I'd rather be banned than killed.

[+] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I never thought that, I voted for Jill Stein.

Either Gaza lives like the rest of the world, or the rest of the world lives like Gaza. No third option.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Dont worry. Trump is doing both. And recognizing the settlement build on your grave. If you didnt vote for Harris you ruined any chance Palestinians had of ever knowing peace since now there wont be free elections anymore

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not for nothing but Harris and the Democrats were very clear that supporting Palestine was never ever on the table in any way whatsoever. So I don't know why y'all keep talking about this as if it was a choice between helping and not helping.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

With the dems there is aid for gaza at least. Trump vetoes that. And with the dems there is democracy, meaning the chance for someone who will help in the future. With Trump there is not since there wont be anymore free elections so any chance of a candidate that wants to help is dead.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Someday maybe someone will help in the future? I'm sure that must be extremely reassuring that in five to nine years there might be someone to throw flowers on the mass Graves.

Also Dems are fine with aid being blocked.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

As a person that's close to the matter - there is no aid for Gaza and you are saying le'bullshit. Any avenues we had were blocked one by one. Even shit like doctors getting medicine in their own backpacks / carry luggage, instead of personal belongings. Democrats aren't "pro Palestine a little bit" they support the genocide.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But the current Democratic administration have made it clear that they don't see Palestinians as humans worthy of self determination. The DNC wouldn't even allow a Palestinian American representative from Georgia to speak on stage. That's a state the Democrats needed to win.

The US was never a good faith partner in the peace process. It is probably for the best that the rest of the world realizes this and act accordingly. Who else but Trump could galvanize the rest of the world to oppose the US?

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The democrats dont block aid for gaza at least. Trump does. The dems allow elections to happen, which can lead to improvement in the future. Any chance of that is dead under Trump. No more elections. No more chancea to get a candidate that will help anyone but rich americans.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Israel is blocking aid to Gaza and the US isn't holding them responsible despite their warnings.

A month ago: U.S. tells Israel, boost humanitarian aid to Gaza or risk losing weapons funding

Now: Middle East latest: US won’t halt any weapons to Israel over Gaza humanitarian aid situation

The only difference between Biden/Harris and Trump here, is that Trump is honest. Both sides are working towards the same outcome. As for no more elections that was said in 2016, and though this time maybe different, the Democrats are responsible for this outcome.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 21 points 8 months ago

Well, it doesn't get any more obvious than this who the baddies are.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 21 points 8 months ago

As an American, this sickens me.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

I see Argentina has joined the Axis of Evil

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Holy Crab, Argentina does have a type.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Milei is a trumptard.

[–] fedev@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

He will follow whatever he does or says blindly

[+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

DR CONGO DR CONGO. DR CONGO DR CONGO. OHHHH DR CONGO

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure the reasoning is "A deal is just around the corner!"

Mhm.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

But the world is round.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Goddamnit, Argentina, what the fuck are y'all doing? You're not even Latin American, anymore. Latin American card revoked.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

Why is "vote in favor" colored red?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

170-2, with 4 abstaining; kinda surprised, literally just the USA and Argentina voting against.