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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

The job site decided to recommend me an article calling for the removal of most human oversight from military AI on grounds of inefficiency, which is a pressing issue since apparently we're already living in the Culture.

The Strategic Liability of Human Oversight in AI-Driven Military Operations

Conclusion

As AI technology advances, human oversight in military operations, though rooted in ethics and legality, may emerge as a strategic liability in future AI-dominated warfare.

~~Oh unknowable genie of the sketchily curated datasets~~ Claude, come up with an optimal ratio of civilian to enemy combatant deaths that will allow us to bomb that building with the giant red cross that you labeled an enemy stronghold.

~~As AI technology advances, human oversight in military operations, though rooted in~~ ethics and legality, may emerge as a strategic liability ~~in future AI-dominated warfare~~.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

This is awful for sure, but thankfully low impact. Turns out that this Terminator Enjoyer is an unemployed idea guy. Maybe he's wrangling for an IDF contract?

From jobbie site:

"An accomplished manager, with expertise in developing innovative concepts and ideas into client services operations and streamlining delivery of products/services within Defence / Cyber Security and Information Technology industry."

and

Technology and Innovation executive , Currently on short sabbatical May 2024 - Present 7 months

Also, I the image is perfect. I especially like the Joe Kucan-looking general embedded in the star trek tactical station. The Technology of Peace ain't what it used to be, is it?

[–] self@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago

human oversigh :(

and daiquiri nominations :)

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also, I the image is perfect. I especially like the Joe Kucan-looking general embedded in the star trek tactical station. The Technology of Peace ain’t what it used to be, is it?

Is that a screenshot from Command&Conquer 4?

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago

what if C&4, but in the metaverse?

[–] istewart@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago

Eliminating Mothman is our prime strattgic priority

Private Bbailcy! I see you back there! Cut it out with the oversighing, you're dragging down morale KPIs for this quarter!

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Another proposal for naming our militia: The Cassandra Division

Our Motto: "Sic diximus vobis"

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago

saltman: no better time to be a startup

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

begins invisible accordion

Then Curtis Marvin, very smart guy, went to MIT like my famous uncle, he said, "but sir, a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors"

Many such cases, I said.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

masterful endofunctor, sir

[–] istewart@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But Trump can't explain things, and Urbit defies explanation. So does the statement "Trump explains Urbit" represent undefined behavior in English?

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

More election shit, unfortunately. This time it's hot tea from SRD:

Superstonkers go surprised_pikachu.jpg

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

funnily enough I had posted in that thread and some neolib guy enthusiastically recommended tracingwoodgrains on David Gerard (?!) in my replies

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1go1ndu/comment/lwgrg5a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 6 days ago

here's a matt yglesias article on the ordeal that i think is pretty even-handed

eat a dick

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago

Words words words and more words that link to even more words (that you can ctrl-f for the relevant bits!)

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[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 19 points 1 week ago

Holy shit I had no idea there was a left wing branch of the mad cryptofascist meme stock cult.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Missed opportunity in the headline: superstonkers go super bonkers

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

A bit of an aside, but how did everyone decide to use the exact phrase "decisive victory" when congratulating president elect Trump? It keeps jumping out to me and I find it kind of weird. It has almost a militaristic tone.

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Should've probably posted this earlier, but fuck it: South Korea's ‘4B’ Movement Goes Viral in US After Trump Elected

“4B” is shorthand for a South Korean movement in which women refuse to engage in heterosexual marriage, childbirth, dating, or sex with men. It comes from the words bihon, bichulsan, biyeonae, and bisekseu, all of which start with a Korean prefix for “no.” It originated in 2019 in response to a culture that women felt was patriarchal beyond repair, and has since gained some traction in other countries.

Also, fuck it, quick sidenote:

This is mostly gut instinct, like most of the Trump predictions I've made, but I'm expecting a spike in full-blown misandry over Trump's term. Mainly because Trump managed to win over Gen Z men this election, and because the Trump administration is almost certainly going to town on abortion/women's rights.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trump managed to win over Gen Z men

…in the sense that more Gen Z men voted for him than in the last election. I am seeing this spin a lot and it honestly seems like a deliberate scapegoating ploy.

The exit poll stats seem to tell a different story.

Data from NBC News considering "key states" (apparently Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas and Wisconsin)

Exit poll result charts, subsection "Age by gender". Men 18-29 (7%): Blue 47%, Red 49%. Men 30-44 (12%): Blue 43%, Red 53%. Men 45-64 (16%): Blue 38%, Red 60%. Men 65+ (12%): Blue 44%, Red 55%. Women 18-29 (7%): Blue 61%, Red 37%. Women 30-44 (12%): Blue 54%, Red 43%. Women 45-64 (19%): Blue 49%, Red 50%. Women 65+ (16%): Blue 54%, Red 45%.

Yes, young men favored Trump. So did all other men (and even Gen X women, if narrowly). Among both genders included in the data, Gen Z was the least likely to vote for Trump and the most likely to vote for Harris.

Granted, these stats are only from the aforementioned states and can't represent the full picture, but they are the only relevant statistics I have seen posted on the matter and the best data I could quickly find. If anyone can show me the data that the darn kids these days are to blame, I'd like to see sime data.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 6 days ago

Serious data might not be available for months. For comparison, the Pew Research Center didn't come out with their numbers for the 2020 election until June 2021. Who knows? The country might burn down before next summer.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

a spike in full-blown misandry

Misandry as in something equal to misogyny? If so, then I have to disagree, since men have historically been absolute pieces of shit towards women throughout history and misandry has never really manifested significantly.

E: I noticed I have a downvote. Hello to our sole MRA lurker!

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