this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
119 points (93.4% liked)

politics

31307 readers
2108 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles. Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to US politics and contain quality and original content. Social Media adjacent hosts like Substack are allowed, but ONLY if they tie back to a company/subsidiary. No personal or friend group blogs and no self-promotion. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and re-hosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing other users of being bots or paid actors.
  3. No memes, trolling, misinformation, or low-effort posts/comments (including reposts). If you see posts like this that anger you, do not engage. Report, block, and live a happier life than they do. Any slap-fight is subject to comment removals. Fights full of rule violations will result in temporary bans to cool off.
  4. No manipulating votes via bots or alt accounts; this will result in permanent bans. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in an account ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be permanently banned.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules and use critical thinking when reading, posting, and commenting. Users that repeatedly have comments or posts removed, weaponize reports, or violate the code of conduct, will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users. The reason(s) behind moderator action(s) are publicly available through the Modlog.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

• Register To Vote

• Citizenship Resource Center

• Congressional Awards Program

• Federal Government Agencies

• Library of Congress Legislative Resources

• The White House

• U.S. House of Representatives

• U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

• News

• World News

• Business News

• Political Discussion

• Ask Politics

• Military News

• Global Politics

• Moderate Politics

• Progressive Politics

• UK Politics

• Canadian Politics

• Australian Politics

• New Zealand Politics

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
all 29 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 78 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In summary “continue to play by the rules of a system that is under the full control of fascists, and hope the world can hold out long enough to run another uninspired campaign helmed by an out of touch, centre-right millionaire”

Was hoping for something a little more inspiring…

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah that’s the only playbook the DNC establishment knows. They’ve tried nothing, and they’re all out of ideas.

[–] _chris@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It took this election for me to be convinced of this. They are not dumb. They’re running the same failed playbook, not trying new ideas, and not swinging left because it will make all of them slightly less rich, and that’s the ultimate goal.

We need a true party for the people again.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yep, same. This election fully shattered any illusion that DNC leadership gives a single flying fuck about what the working class cares about. They deserve to collapse as a political party after shitting the bed so hard they lost to the fascist party led by a guy who literally shits his pants on a regular basis.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's not entirely fair. Among Democratic Congresspeople, Warren is one of the better ones in terms of pushing for meaningful reforms to help the working class.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Step 1. Replace the top Dem leadership that has shown time and time again now that they have no idea what they're doing anymore.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

They know exactly what their doing... Even more reason to replace them

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Avoid capture, find escape route to Europe, stay out of the media, build a resistance group, be taken out by the fsb and fbi.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

find escape route to Europe

I have some bad news, migrants coming to the EU by boat nowadays don't have it good.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Oh I'm talking soley about Liz Warren.

A rich white lady moving to Europe? "She's like family!"

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 years ago

Hey cool, it's that a person who caused this mess telling me what to do about it.

Here's what liz should do.

  • Invent a time machine.

  • Actually endorse Bernie instead of help the establishment beat him back.

You don't get to lead the resistance as a collaborator liz.

[–] lemzinger75@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've always felt that Warren was one of the few politicians who actually cared about making our lives better. This response of hers, however, is completely tone-deaf.

Progressive ballot measures for things like higher min. wage and guaranteed sick leave are (and have always been) hugely popular. Dems must make these policies part of their platform and do a much better job on messaging.

This means they need to stop pushing out progressives. The "I'm not Trump" and "Trump is a threat to democracy" appeals were never going to work. Give people a reason to vote for YOU. SHOW them how you're going to make their lives better.

Calling for an obstructionist policy while Trump holds office is fine, but it does nothing to help you win the next election. It's time to reinvent the Democrat party into one that actually serves the working class and actually "un-rigs" the system against them.

[–] deadtom@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

I still remember how she, with no chance of winning herself, fucked over Bernie to give the primary nomination to Biden. I'm good. She's totally on board with corporate democrat fuckery whether or not she claims to be one. Progressives aren't welcome in the modern right wing-lite party.

We need to get money out of politics before the wealthy kill us all.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Move to a third world country, live like a king.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you're in the US, you're already there - just give it some time for that truth to take its inevitable hold.

[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

It's truly crazy how much of the more rural parts of the US are basically a third world country

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I didn't read it. Is it abolish the DNC and start over? If not, it's not going to work.