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Round and round we go... (lemmy.world)
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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 49 points 22 hours ago

If we get a next time, everyone had better show up in the primaries to vote for the Bernie-equivalent or further left. If I'm the only person under 60 at my primary polling place again, I'm gonna snap.

Centrists don't win primaries because of Centrist Magic(tm). They win from disengagement of the young and high participation by fucking dinosaurs who still think it's the 1980s.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Centrists don’t win primaries because of Centrist Magic™. They win from disengagement of the young and high participation by fucking dinosaurs who still think it’s the 1980s.

And also by a pervasive campaign of suppression and character assassination of leftist candidates by corporate news media.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I’m with you. But our primary system fucking sucks and it disenfranchises people based on the staggered timings. I was so motivated for Warren and a ton of people I know were. But Biden had won by the time most people got a chance to vote, including me.

The timing thing I guess is interesting for giving people time to adjust but I would prefer a system where it was one day and one person one vote.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Every state I've lived in has had a late primary, and only once did I actually get to vote in it when it could have made a difference.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I've got an idea, and history would agree.

Violence.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I mean, that only works if you have a substantial base of supporters who are already willing to endure significant hardship for the cause.

Considering we lack a substantial number of people who are willing to turn out for one day just to vote, I'm thinking that's putting the cart before the horse.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I really don't like that you're right, but you're right. Let's just hope that it will be at some point.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

That's a monkey's paw wish right there. Electoralism was our alternative to blood in the streets, I would really prefer no blood in the streets.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

There was no primary. Biden won the farce of one that featured no competing candidates even appearing on a significant number of state primary ballots. And even that was thrown out the window. You're fucked again in 2028 if you put any amount of faith in that shitshow.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I meant the 2020 primary.

[-] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I'd rather have an uninspiring centrist than a convicted felon and fascist tho.

But how did the great poet Mick Jagger put it? "You can't always get what you want."

[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago

can I please get off the no-merry-go-round? I'm starting to get dizzy!

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 10 points 21 hours ago

Be a part of that change. Run for local office and or encourage other progressives around you to do the same

Change quite often starts locally and flows up. Those in the national party very usually come from state offices and work their way up. Make that pool of people as progressive as possible

Make no seat uncontested

Organize in every place you can. Beyond just elections, organize for unions, organize to protest, organize to stand with your community, do not given in to the complacency that the far right wants you to have

Power is not be given freely, you have to fight for it. That fight lives on and is worthwhile. Things will get worse before they can get better. But we can lay the groundwork for the future to be better

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Too bad I don't have the temperament to be in local government. I'll start flipping tables.

[-] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 17 hours ago

If Trump can bully his way to be president, I'm sure flipping tables as such is completely inconsequential

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Only if it was for putting guns with bibles on them in school.

Democrats would clutch their pearls and call me unelectable.

[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

This sounds like a solid plan! It will for sure be a uphill battle where I live. (MT)

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

No, now eat your damn dirt soup and be happy about it.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago

You can get off the carousel when it shatters into a million deadly fragments of shrapnel.

[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

Rollin til the wheels fall off!

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Poland is still inaccurate, as it was when it was posted here the last time

Edit: I tried to search for my comment last time but I didn't find it. So short summary: In Poland, an authoritarian far-right party ruled for a long time that acted heavily against the rule of law and separation of powers (they replaced their Supreme Court and discharged judges on other courts that didn't rule as they wanted) and was very anti-democratic (they turned the national TV into a propaganda broadcast). Amid huge protests, the opposition won the election, and while it is not a very left coalition, they were pretty successful in reversing many of this horrible things, e.g. taking back control of the TV broadcast with a completely new team. They couldn't undo everything as the president with a veto power is still from the old party but with the president elections coming soon this could change soon. And it's generally very euphoric and awesome what happened because it was really terrible what the other party did to this country.

[-] zbych@szmer.info 3 points 21 hours ago

In truth, after the elections in Poland and the change of power, the style of politics has not changed and the election promises have not been implemented. Therefore, it is most likely that the old power will win again in future elections.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

The absolute fucking best part of this story is that the right wing party is literally called pis I cannot fucking contain myself fuck my life / rip / lol

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 8 points 20 hours ago

The graph is optimistic. If Argentina is any indication, the final result is the country stuck in the mud, spinning its wheels on "the previous government failed us because it was not far right enough! I, your populist savior, will fix that by dismantling any institutions that are left!"

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

I appreciate that this diagram shows that many countries around the world are going through this now. Though I disagree that the centrists aren't tackling the social problems. They're also not tackling the economic problems.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 20 hours ago

Argentina was fucked before the current government made changes, which are actually starting to show improvement. Yes he cut tons of social programs, but they were also staring down Zimbabwe levels of inflation.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The selling of public assets does provide a temporary cash influx, in the same way that selling your tools of the trade might let you pay off your credit cards, only now you still have the same costs but no way to earn money.

But, look. Your former competition is hiring! I mean, sure, he's paying you less than you were making, but maybe one day you'll get a promotion in his company!

Only he actually charges you for tool use in the shop, so you're making even less than you thought. Enough to survive, sure. For now.

And, actually, some of those tools look kind of familiar...

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