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[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago

WHITE WOMEN CHOSE THE DUDE THIS ELECTION AND THE DUDE WAS TRUMP

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 35 minutes ago

Yeah, but there are a LOT of white women in the south.

Absentee ballots are cool and all, I'm sure southern husbands and fathers love being able to 'check everyone voted properly'.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 23 minutes ago

It's amazing how I've never ever seen a single thread on this metaphor and not seen at least two to three male users get furious and thus prove the metaphor 100% correct. Not once. Every single time. It's like catnip they can't resist it.

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 2 points 57 minutes ago

Correct me if im wrong, not American;

People in your family can know if you register to vote as a dem o rep right? I suspect that if voting registration was anonymous like normal countries a lot less white women would have voted for trump

[-] odelik@lemmy.today 12 points 54 minutes ago

Registration doesn't require a party affiliation.

Party affiliation doesn't require voting for the party you've affiliated with.

Who/what you voted for is anonymous.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

registered msybe, but whether dem or rep is not chosen

[-] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 3 points 53 minutes ago

You don't have to be registered under a specific party I think. I'm not American, but you can register as an independent. And you don't have to vote for the party you're registered for. Actually I have no idea why you even register for certain parties in the first place

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 2 points 35 minutes ago

It's so you can participate in primary elections for that party. Some people who vote Dem in the general election will sometimes register as Republican so that they can vote for spoiler candidates in the Republican primary. There's not enough people doing it for that plan to really have any impact though.

But the same logic applies if you are trying to hide your votes from nosy family. Family members have enough info on you to be able to look up your party registration so if you are afraid of them causing drama, you can register as whatever party the rest of your family is registered as and then vote for the other side in the general election. The actual votes you cast cannot be traced back to you... Which can raise other concerns like not being able to verify if your vote actually counted.

[-] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 49 points 4 hours ago

This isn't going to be popular, but part of the problem is not acknowledging that 42%. It's fucking insulting, frankly. Plenty of women voted for the bear.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 3 hours ago

52% of white women voted for trump.

Chances are that many of the people crying about men voting trump, are part of a demographic that mostly voted trump.

Trump apparently won the popular vote anyway. Most of everyone who voted, voted trump. But let's focus on men and then be surprised that young men who are very insecure about themselves anyway, feel attacked by the left and choose the right.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 41 minutes ago

How would you know it's 52%? Isn't voting anonymous?

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 21 minutes ago
[-] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 10 points 3 hours ago

Please don't get me confused, I don't think it's good this many men voted for The Stain. Also, 52% of WHITE women, but I bet if you combined ALL women, that number would drop dramatically.

My broader point is, IMO, that 42% never gets talked about so why would it grow, yeah?

Or, put another way, when I talk about women, who are my allies against the Patriarchy, I speak of why I like them (because I do, I LOVE women). They are resilient, strong, resourceful, grounded, etc, all the good stuff, and I try to include all women in that, they are my allies. I try NOT to focus on trad wives, manipulators, "gold diggers", abusers, weirdos like MTG or Caitlyn Jenner , you know, bad people (and there are plenty).

But when I hear about men in the ally space, it feels like I hear all about how awful and dangerous we are and that's it. And there's ALWAYS this group of guys willing to go along with it and point and go "yeah, we totally suck! You guys saying we don't are the real problem!" But, how is that motivating to anyone? It makes me upset, anyways. Maybe I'm just a big emotional baby, who knows?

Anyways, I'm blabbing. Bad habit of mine.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 18 minutes ago

I mean, I'm out. Doesn't matter what I do or how I vote I'm going to be called the enemy by the left anyway. They are adamant that I am their enemy and that they are mine. So that's how it's gonna be.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

while were demographic blaming you might as well start talking about latinos

[-] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 1 points 3 minutes ago

An I demographic blaming?

Honest question, why so defensive? This post is demographic blaming, but am I supposed to go, "oh yeah I suck even though I am an ally." Is that it? Is that what you want? Subservience?

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

That problem seems like it could solve itself...

Face eating leopard party hungers...

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 hours ago

I would rather kill myself than vote for trump, who is a sexist, racist and fascist.

And I am with you. The boarder left is in denial that they are alienating especially young men with that behavior.

[-] dwemthy 5 points 1 hour ago

Meanwhile the right is actively recruiting young men. The name "Manosphere" for their recruitment cedes that ground to them with no resistance. "That's just how men are, they hate women and vote for Trump because celebrities tell them to." The right is actively selling their ideology to young men, the left isn't.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

The left has nothing for them, the American left used to be racist and sexist too, but then they expelled the dixiecrats.

Where do you think all that sexist racist scum came from? You think they wave confederate flags for no reason?

[-] Manmoth@lemmy.ml -1 points 59 minutes ago

young men who are very insecure about themselves anyway

Nice anti-masculine sentiment. No wonder they voted Trump. You guys don't hide your disdain as well as you think you do.

feel attacked by the left and choose the right.

Lol I wonder why...

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 minutes ago

As a guy who used to be a young man and with a lot of young men as friends, retrospectively yeah, most issues were based in insecurities. You really want to be an adult and you feel like you should be one but you don't know how to be one. You go out and want to meet girls and you are scared of the rejection.

You can act like that is "anti-masculine" sentiment but it isn't. It is an understanding of humans.

Just as a sidenote, based on my experience every young adult is struggling with insecurities.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 0 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

As a father of a daughter?

Those men need to go fuck themselves and die.

I am horrified my daughter might have to share a world with that complete trash.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

plot twist they actually choose Trump

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