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[-] Wolfram@lemmy.world 144 points 1 day ago

I can't tell you how much faith I've lost in the average person in America, especially compared to how... ok, I guess, the last election went and how tight, or possibly over this one is.

I can't fathom how fucking stupid anyone would have to be to elect this orange piece of shit that has been upping the dangerous rhetoric constantly. America is broken and it isn't worth fixing, especially not for the morons that somehow get him elected again. I just hope that I can get to a point in my career that I can move elsewhere, maybe Ireland or New Zealand or something, fuck.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 230 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Plain and simple... She was a woman, and a black person - There will be months of tap dancing and "deep" analysis, but we're just an ugly, atrophied, broken, racist and patriarchal nation, like deep down in our DNA. We were able to elect Obama, yes - he is half white, and a man (those weren't the loud messages as they attacked him, but Pennsylvania gramma knew those things quietly when she pulled the lever for him). It's not satisfying, but it's just the plain truth here. We're closer to getting over race than we are over sex.

Plenty of deliberate work has been done, mostly by republicans, to keep America stupid, poor and in untreated pain, yes... But we're also just trash on the whole. We raise trash and we vote for trash. We just aren't smarter than social algorithms, TV soap opera narratives, costumes and makeup. "The pretend business man is white, old, wears a tie and has a gold watch. He feels like how daddy felt when I was little, and when things are bad, daddy fixed them the way I remember it."

Video game trolls, people who failed the cop application physical and triple DUI wine moms are America. No further explanation or analysis needed.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago

Obama was a unique situation in that he was both an incredibly charismatic JFK-style figure and ran after the Republicans had managed to both start a very unpopular war and destroy the world economy.

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[-] LappingDog@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago

I voted for Harris walz, but I think a lot of this is the fault of Biden for trying to run for reelection and sticking it out until July. I live in the south and I think the lack of a primary reallly hurt the ticket because a sizable portion of the people I’ve talked to felt like she was appointed instead of being elected, which is a bad move when public trust in our institutions is already at an all time low.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 58 points 23 hours ago

This is all excuses. The fact that Trump made it all the way as the primary candidate for the GOP means that Republicans were okay with what he said and what he did.

For a normal person, it shouldn't even take a second to choose Harris. But this isn't the case. Trump won the popular vote and the presidency despite all the crazy shit because a sizeable part of the citizens voted him in regardless of the reason.

And not only that, but Republicans won the senate and well on their way to win the house.

It is about to get real bad, and Americans have themselves to blame for that.

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[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 23 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

What??? We literally saw democracy play out. You can't even use the excuse that he lost the popular vote, he won every type of democratic way we have.

You know what wasn't democracy? Installing candidates into primaries over democratically popular candidates. Hillary in 2016, Biden in 2020 and Kamala in 2024. In every single one of these primaries, they did everything they could to shut down anyone popular who showed any sign of having a backbone, even though they killed democracy as it happened.

What we saw was a backlash to a stifling of democracy. Democracy won last night.

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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 28 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

(in spirit since I am not American)

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 14 points 18 hours ago

Part of that joke though is that they're both exactly the same which is of course a false premise.

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[-] servobobo@feddit.nl 24 points 21 hours ago

this is what a terminal case of neoliberalism looks like, kids

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago

Also say goodbye to internet freedom of speech, if even a small portion of Project 2025 comes into play. Anti-pornography activism sounds nice on paper, until you realize everyone has a different definition of pornography, and the people that want to ban porn the most have a rather interesting take on what constitutes as porn and what doesn't...

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 28 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

“Anti-pornography” specifically means “anti-LGBT” to them.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago

They will extend it to mean anything outside of what their version of Christianity allows, which will include a lot of straight people

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

Anti-pornography activism sounds nice on paper

I am absolutely ashamed I'm forced to vote along side you by First Past the Post voting. Disgusting.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 41 points 23 hours ago

How does anti-pornography sound good to you? If you are about to give some religious nonsense, please don't bother.

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 34 points 23 hours ago

It absolutely does not sound nice on paper.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 116 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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