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Harris says she strongly disagrees with criticism of people based on who they vote for after Biden's 'garbage' remark (www.nbcnews.com)

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[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 137 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't. If you decided that blatant incompetence, fascism, sexism, racism, xenophobia, felonies, sexual assault, etc. were all the traits of a man that you vehemently support to be in charge of this country... if you want your political rivals deported, jailed or killed... you are fucking garbage. Fuck you. This isn't 2016. There is no excuse anymore. Nobody is ignorant unless they are willfully ignorant. If you vote for Trump, you are either willfully ignoring all of these things and putting this monster in charge anyway because you cant stand to vote for an objectively wildly more competent and normal Democrat or just not vote, or, worse, you actively support these things. Either way, you are a fundamentally garbage human being.

[-] mjhelto@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

I get it, the anger and spite, but you're not running for president in a country where a portion of the population believes you should be saintly while your opponent spews vitriol any time he opens his mouth. Biden has nothing to lose by removing the gloves, but unfortunately, calling a rose a pig dipped in dog shit while hoping to appease the largest swath of voters is something Harris needs to shoulder. Biden should have never made those comments, at least not until after the election.

I feel the same as you, but we have the platform to voice those things anonymously and without repercussions.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Trump and the Republican party incites violence on a daily basis. He is running on mass deportations (which means concentration camps), using police and military to 'deal with' the 'enemies within' meaning US citizens, this is straight up Hitlarian. The just finished a Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden, where racism and violence was rampant, even more than in 1939.

Harris moving to the right by adoption right-wing framing on immigration, wanting to add a republican to her cabinet, campaigning with Liz Cheney, and aiming to appease Republican voters does not work. The Republican party is mask-off fascist, they are openly advocating for violence. They will demonize and call Kamala a violent radical communist regardless of her actual positions. Progressive policies are popular.

This double standard is bullshit and needs to be called out for exactly what it is by Harris and Media too, not just Biden. Harris and her campaign should be attacking Trump for his Fascist positions, on mass deportations, and women's bodily autonomy, on LGBT+ rights, etc. You want republican voters to realize how fascist trump really is and distance themselves. Leaving this fascist behavior unchecked, it will just grow. The election is in like a week and the Democrats want to hug the Republican party when they desperately need to have a backbone and fight back and run on actual solutions.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I see the ambiguity in Bidens statement, but it looks to me he meant the comedian, specifically the things the comedian said. " I don’t know the Puerto Rican that — that I know — or a Puerto Rico, where I’m fr- — in my home state of Delaware, they’re good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter’s — his — his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American."

But the more important piece here is contrasting Harris with Trump, Harris addressed Biden's remarks directly, Trump won't address the racism directly. Harris is presidential, Trump is not.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 month ago

I'm with Biden on this one. If after all that Trump and his entire ecosystem of hate has said and done, if you still support them then you are indeed garbage.

Dementia has no filter. The old man said what he meant. Don't treat him like a child and let him stand proudly by his words.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's one word I keep coming back to: indefensible. I don't see how anyone could listen to Trump speak, see the effects of his policies, and understand his goals, and still think, "Yeah, that guy should be president."

Senile
Felon
Liar
Rapist
Bigot
Kleptocrat
Insurrectionist
Fascist
Misogynist
Narcissist
Nepotist
Ignorant

and those are just the things he's admitted to out loud in front of a camera. Any one of those would immediately disqualify any other candidate, and there isn't any argument to be made that he isn't all of those things. Denial is a helluva drug, but to deny all of those things? The only conclusion is that his supporters share his "values" and that makes them as deplorable as he is.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

I strongly disagree with Kamala Harris strongly disagreeing about this

[-] gerbler@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Political views aren't immutable characteristics and I literally cannot think of a better metric by which to judge people.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Nah, Brandon’s right. Repubs are garbage.

[-] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 20 points 1 month ago

still "going high" playing by maques dequeenbury rules, when the other sides out here with switchblades taking kneecaps

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

She's the candidate. Biden said that so that she could say this. He's speaking truth, and she's extending an olive branch. Normally, it would be the VP who says the blunt thing, but it has more juice coming from the sitting president. Trump would be doing the same thing, if they could trust Trump to say anything without going rogue and rambling something bigoted.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I doubt Biden planned that, I genuinely think he misspoke or failed to filter by accident. But I agree that that is how her campaign is considering and treating it. It got that opinion out there but allowed her the grace to walk it back.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe. He is very old, and has always been prone to commit gaffes. But he's not wrong.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

It also demonstrates that Harris can disagree with Biden, to counter arguments of "why hasn't she already done [thing campaign is promising] ?"

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

It would be nice to live in a world where everyone called out the obvious corruption and treason of the Repub party, and by extension, its voters (who are garbage).

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Brandon was right tho.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Oh I don’t.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I didn't hear it over being called vile and scum by Trump, but if that's what the media wants to talk about.,,

[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Latinos want to be white so bad. They'll jump down the throat of someone saying you're bad for voting for someone that thinks your garbage.

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