I really wanna know what muslim sources he's talking about
Uyghur genocide is being rebranded as a thousand year persecution now
Ahmad-al Zenez
Maybe they'll start treating it like the persecution of Palestinians? I.e. "the conflict has been ongoing for hundreds of years, it's too deep for us Westerners to do anything about."
His last sentence literally just sounds like the hasbara claiming that Muslims have a fundamental hatred in their blood against Jews.
Also with the moronic anti-communist talking point comparing political ideology to religion.
First country outside of the middle east to have Muslim Converts
Oldest Muslim Communities in a non-muslim Majority country
Its almost worse than the state dept talking point of the ebil commies suppressing islam as part of upholding state atheism or whatever. This fking guys is just implying that Chinese people hate muslims because they're just wired this way
It's a common liberal canard. "Revolution is just leftist rapture". No, rapture is a revolutionary fantasy, because revolutions have happened since basically the start of history.
It's also projection, given their whole thing of just praying harder to the Democracy God every 4 years in the hopes that if they wish hard enough, iit will bring things back to how they were in the before-times.
PSL stay the only serious choice. That's so pathetic that a particularly right-wing democrat could have written it.
What did PSL say about China?
PSL is extremely pro-China. We published this book in defense of the Chinese socialist project throughout its various stages: https://1804books.com/products/chinas-revolution-and-the-quest-for-a-socialist-future?srsltid=AfmBOopAZjv7lE2ic5UwpMOe3K9HfhdGh3ChWT9ZD6T1noKPmVwny6B0
And some articles from our theory/analysis website:
https://www.liberationschool.org/china-political-rhetoric-xi-report/
https://www.liberationschool.org/ten-crises-wen-tiejun/
PSL defends the Soviet Union's suppression of the Hungarian Revolution of 1956.[25]
The party supports the Communist Party of China,[7][24] criticizing only its capitalist economic reforms.[25] PSL argues that "militant political defense of the Chinese government" is necessary to stave off "counterrevolution, imperialist intervention and dismemberment".[26][24] PSL defends China's human rights records,[7] and strongly denies that the People's Liberation Army massacred student protestors in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre.[24][27][25] PSL denies that China has suppressed democracy in Hong Kong.[28][29]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation
lazy source but whatever
Based takes by PSL holy shit I didn't think Americans could believe any of this.
Thats a pretty good stance. I can't find the greens policy
They've done a lot with regards to China. Breakthrough News is from them, and they have the China Report these days with Amanda Yee and KJ Noh. Ken Hammond, one of the co-founders of the Confucius Institute, member of Pivot for Peace, and one of the US's premier experts on China, is a card carrying member of PSL. So it's one of their party lines to support the CPC.
The latest position I can find of theirs as of 3 weeks ago: https://www.instagram.com/pslnational/p/DAUF6mvyiLW/
No to the new cold war and the defense-industrial complex benefiting from it. Instead of stoking WW3, invest that money in social programmes and infrastructure.
all Muslims know
:doubt:
Yeah uh, ok. Fuck.
Ware admitting he is an easy mark but trying to make it sound like this is actually the Smart Guy Position.
I hate when people just put random sentences together
Is there a fallacy for calling the group of people you don't like a religion or cult? Because holy shit do those 2 words have very little meaning anymore.
Yet barely any muslims talk about it, priorities priorities
Neoliberals are the only group who have achieved pure atheist enlightenment, because they truly believe in nothing at all.
Leftism isn't a religion and anyone who says so is a fucking imbecile
I don't think I've heard Jill make a remark on it. I'm not sure if this represents more of the Greens or just Ware having a bit of a moment. I listened to Howie Hawkins "case for an independent left party" the other day and was surprised with how outright socialist the text is. I've heard Greens are also a huge mixed bag depending on chapter.
I've heard Greens are also a huge mixed bag depending on chapter
They are. I honestly think they would've been a better vehicle for the nascent left than the fucking DSA democrat tailists as they're an actual political party separate from the political duopoly unitary and have built up significant enough infrastructure to actually be fielded across the country significantly enough to actually piss off the Democrat party leadership.
when I'm back in the states I'll take a look at local Green's actions as well as PSL I think. yes DSA has to end its tailism then maybe it has a chance to play a real role
adrien zenz, famous Muslim source
Are they counting Mongols and Manchu as Han Chinese?
I went to see Stein speak and it was so bad I actually decided I wasn't going to vote for her.
Care to elaborate? She seemed okay in the Channel 5 interview. BTW I already voted
Stein spoke well and at least said some cool stuff. She spent time denouncing Russia which was unnecessary but whatever I guess. What bothered me about her speech was that its clear she and the Greens have adopted the rhetoric of socialism but don't seem to grasp the substance. There were no calls for organization or movement building. More of "just elect me and I'll take care of it" sort of stuff. Her positions were much more radical than a Democrat's would be but there was no articulation of how she would "declare a climate emergency" and get past the courts for instance.
From what I remember of her in 2016 the rhetoric was sharply more radical this time around which makes me suspicious too. I know people can grow in that time, I certainly have, but it sets off my opportunist sense.
Also pretty much everyone else there or who spoke was insufferable. Lots of hippie and faux revolutionary nonsense. Stein was the only one of the five speakers (also by far the best) who talked about anything else besides Palestine (which is obviously an important issue but it was nearly an hour of clearly unrehearsed speeches reiterating basically the same points about Palestine). Also the place had a lot of Trotskyists in attendance because WSB has gone all in for Stein and all of that also gives me bad vibes and then the fact that the Greens don't seem to actually be giving any platform for the Trotskyists also seems to be cutting off any potentially Marxist agitation which makes it worse.
I'll just be writing in De La Cruz in November.
This is not reflective of the Green Party. I wonder why a historian of Islam and Africa has such an opinion on the Chinese-Uyghur relations given China and Islam's long history of cooperation, trade, and co-existence going back before the 1400's? Perhaps someone more studied on it can educate Rudolph T. Ware, III.
https://www.gp.org/democracy#demForeignPolicy
Only word of China was the joint Iran deal
Iran
The Green Party supports the "joint comprehensive plan of action" signed in July, 2015 by Iran and the P5+1 (five permanent members of the UN Security Council: China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States plus Germany), and the European Union, which confirms Iran's status as a zone free of nuclear weapons. According to the United States National Intelligence Estimate, Iran halted an alleged active nuclear weapons program in the Fall of 2003. Iran, which has signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, has consistently called for a nuclear-free zone in the entire Middle East.
The "joint comprehensive plan of action" provides that in return for Iran upholding its agreements to rid itself of nuclear material as verified by inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), current economic sanctions by the US, European Union and UN Security Council will be lifted. The Green Party supports the swift elimination of these economic sanctions on Iran and looks to the normalization of relations between Iran and the United States. In keeping with UN resolutions call for a nuclear-free Middle East, the Green Party also calls on Israel, the only nuclear power in the Middle East with at least 200 nuclear warheads, to dismantle its nuclear weapons program and sign on to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty.
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All the Muslim sources go to a different school
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