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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 193 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 115 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No, that's not the best Gadsden flag parody. Far from it. Here's some better ones:

[–] Zedd00@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks, those are great too! 😁

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[–] SyntaxTerror@feddit.org 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a European I see these for the first time, where do they come from? Usually I see eagles, donkeys and elephants with US stuff

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 76 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Libertarian? Isn't that just Conservative with extra steps?

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Libertarians, at least in the US, are all about being selfish. "why should I pay taxes to fund schools, I don't have kids" types. It's all "me, me, me."

Insufferable wankers.

Republicans are like that too but they also enjoy telling everyone else what they should be doing. They want to control other people's access to healthcare, punish them for being the "wrong" faith, sexuality, race, etc.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

More like conservatives who like weed.

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago

That’s been happening for decades. Libertarians have only ever existed because the Republicans used to be tacitly against racism.

[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Mongoose! Even better!

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago

My personal favorite:

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (9 children)

There is no masquerading. Libertarians are just cons/repubs without the religion who smoke weed

[–] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Libertarians are just republicans with a better working knowledge of local age of consent laws.

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[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Politics have been irreparably poisoned by that political compass bullshit.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

What's clear is that the Right-wing's whole thing doesn't exactly attract (good) artists. They tend to borrow and steal most of their iconography rather than make something new^1^. Strangely, the whole movement also seems to be both unable to execute parody nor see the humor in self-parody, which I assert is a faculty needed to pull off good political art.

So that puts some serious creative power in league with everyone else. Should be interesting.

^1^ - MAGA is a great example of this. The slogan itself is lifted from Reagan's 1980 campaign, so it's nothing new. The current slogan marketing "design" is nothing more than a white serif font on a red field, which in highly-technical graphic design terms is called: "lazy as fuck."

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The slogan itself is lifted from Reagan’s 1980 campaign, so it’s nothing new

...Which in turn lifted it from the National Front's "Make Britain Great Again," which is the last time it was actually clever wordplay.

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Actually, that's been the case for just about exactly 16 years. I watched it happen in real time.

I went through a libertarian phase in the 80s and 90s, mostly because I couldn't reconcile my anarchist sensibilities with the fact that humanity just isn't ready to do entirely without authority. I eventually just gave in and shifted to anarchism, since it's really the only position that's consistent with my principles, and I just treat it as more of an ideal toward which to strive than an actual immediate goal.

In any event, I knew the libertarian movement of the era. It was more right- than left-wing even then, but it was primarily libertarian, exactly as the term implies - primarily focused just on minimizing political authority.

Then came the Tea Party.

The first Tea Party protests were organized by actual libertarians and were specifically against the Wall Street bailouts in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis that Wall Street had essentially single-handedly caused. And notably, they were against the Bush administration.

But then, shortly after Obama's victory, with a suspiciously well-timed and widespread boost fron the legacy media reporting on an even more suspiciously well-timed on-air comment by Jim Cramer, the Tea Party was recast into a Republican protest against the left. And it almost immediately transformed from a series of protests against the Wall Street bailouts to a traveling right-wing carnival of hate. (And conveniently enough, the focus on the Wall Street bailouts completely vanished).

While I saw that happen I didn't recognize the near-immediate Overton Window shift it triggered until I noticed a sudden influx of libertarians on anarchist forums. And they all had the same story - they had abandoned their libertarian forums because they had been taken over by angry, stupid Republicans.

And that became the status quo. The former libertarians mostly settled into their own sub-community of "anarcho-capitalists" and the libertarian movement is now pretty much just angry, stupid Republicans who are only marked out by the fact that they lean more into corporatocracy and militarism than religious fundamentalism and social war.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] thisNotMyName@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 15 points 2 years ago

Realizing that libertarians were just conservatives lampung as anti establishment was a sad realization.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

But libertarians are conservative. They just also like weed and bitcoin

[–] zeroday@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago

A similar shitty Gadsden flag parody was in a protest flyer I saw recently -

[–] Neurologist@mander.xyz 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

r/libertarian was mildly pro-Biden 4 years ago. I guess the astroturfing and corpofication of reddit have taken their toll.

[–] dadrad@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago
[–] lugal@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] narp@feddit.org 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a typo. The original "Don't tread on me" Flag is called the "Gadsden Flag".

Maybe you were joking, I didn't know this and I think it's pretty funny how well the typo fits!

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Libertarians have abandoned the principles of liberty since as long as I’m alive

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