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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

New piece from Brian Merchant: Yes, the striking dockworkers were Luddites. And they won.

Pulling out a specific paragraph here (bolding mine):

I was glad to see some in the press recognizing this, which shows something of a sea change is underfoot; outlets like the Washington Post, CNN, and even Inc. Magazine all published pieces sympathizing with the longshoremen besieged by automation—and advised workers worried about AI to pay attention. “Dockworkers are waging a battle against automation,” the CNN headline noted, “The rest of us may want to take notes.” That feeling that many more jobs might be vulnerable to automation by AI is perhaps opening up new pathways to solidarity, new alliances.

To add my thoughts, those feelings likely aren't just that many more jobs are at risk than people thought, but that AI is primarily, if not exclusively, threatening the jobs people want to do (art, poetry, that sorta shit), and leaving the dangerous/boring jobs mostly untouched - effectively the exact opposite of the future the general public wants AI to bring them.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I saw this over the weekend and the title itself is rather lovely, but even more hilariously it's from the atlantic

evidence of wider continued rising of the tide against saltman's bullshit grows

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

evidence of wider continued rising of the tide against saltman’s bullshit grows

Precisely when that rising tide will drown Altman I'm not sure, but I feel safe in saying it'll probably drown the rest of the AI industry (and potentially "AI" as a concept) as well - Altman is pretty much the face of this AI bubble, after all.

The rising tide was likely also helped along by OpenAI going fully for-profit, which shattered the humanitarian guise it spent the last decade or so building, and, to quote myself, "given the true believers reason to believe [Altman would] commit omnicide-via-spicy-autocomplete for a quick buck".

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Every AI spring brings an even harsher AI winter.

Winter is coming.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

Every AI spring brings an even harsher AI winter.

Oh, I expect a real harsh AI winter once this spring comes to a close - the public isn't just overtly disappointed about AI's failure to deliver, but outright angry at the nasty shit AI's unleashed upon them.

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[–] JFranek@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just something I found in the wild (r/machine learning): Please point me in the right direction for further exploring my line of thinking in AI alignment

I'm not a researcher or working in AI or anything, but ...

you don't say

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Alignment? Well, of course it depends on your organization's style guide but if you're using TensorFlow or PyTorch in Python, I recommend following PEP-8, which specifies four spaces per indent level and…

Wait, you're not working in AI the what are you even asking for?

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

check out this jumpscare suckerpunch mashup

some of the details are so on point I’m almost left pointing and mouthing “art”

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

neil turkewitz coming in with a wry comment about AI's legal issues:

And, because this is becoming so common, another sidenote from me:

With the large-scale art theft that gen-AI has become thoroughly known for, how the AI slop it generates has frequently directly competed with its original work (Exhibit A), the solid legal case for treating the AI industry's Biblical-scale theft as copyright infringement and the bevvy of lawsuits that can and will end in legal bloodbaths, I fully expect this bubble will end up strengthening copyright law a fair bit, as artists and megacorps alike endeavor to prevent something like this ever happening again.

Precisely how, I'm not sure, but to take a shot in the dark I suspect that fair use is probably gonna take a pounding.

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

fix the year! we're back in the present! out of the time traveling cybertruck!

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tried to get out, door cut my leg off. Now I have to go back to the future to get it reattached.

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

Just remembering this banger from back in the day.

[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

Oh look! Human horrors ~~beyond~~ regrettably within my comprehension

https://x.com/haveibeenpwned/status/1843780415175438817

Tweet descriptionNew sensitive breach: "AI girlfriend" site Muah[.]ai had 1.9M email addresses breached last month. Data included AI prompts describing desired images, many sexual in nature and many describing child exploitation. 24% were already in @haveibeenpwned . More: https://404media.co/hacked-ai-girlfriend-data-shows-prompts-describing-child-sexual-abuse-2/

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