I still find the fact that the ultra auth-left instance hexbear.net is the most republican instance on the entire fediverse extremely amusing
Not surprising. Tankies are fascists with leftist aesthetics.
How do we know that fact? I am curious. Maybe I missed something. Thanks
we don't know for a fact, but I've spent some time on a lot of instances and they were the only ones telling me to not vote harris and instead vote trump
Oh I see. I know the kind of people you talk about and it is quite curious...
It's always matter of time before some radical nationalists and radical socialists talk to each other, come to the realization that they actually have a lot in common and then decide to work together in a single nationalist socialist organisation. The inevitable backstabbing comes later.
Edit: I had written national instead of nationalist.
Can someone please fucking explain to me how people are saying Vance won this debate?
On reddit the bot propaganda message is that Vance won the debate. I guess the answer is Russian interference
if the event organizers lied it makes it more or less a draw
They didn't though...
Saying this is a no-brainer is essentially in and of itself, a no-brainer. But yet, here we are, frustratingly attempting to educate leftists and undecided people on the dangers of “protest voting” and how cataclysmically dangerous it is to assume that you know better without ever seeming to possess the ability to simply just prove it.
We have the receipts. We know damn well what is going to happen if Trump is allowed to win.
And if you think you’re teaching someone a lesson with your withheld vote, I’ve got news for you-
A LOT of people are going to be hurt. And the ones you think it will be, the ones you’d want it to be- won’t be counted among them.
I promise you this.
Couldn't tell democrats to try and please their demographics instead of republicans. No, the left vote is "owed" to democrats no matter how much they turn their back on those voters. And then y'all wonder why people are disillusioned with politics.
Well, when your entire political view is based on unsubstantiated rhetoric, I’d imagine it’s probably pretty easy to arrive at such a conclusion.
No vote is owed, bud. That’s just something you all seem to like to tell yourself so that your smug arrogance has a semblance of purpose.
And trust me when I say this:
No one is wondering why you’re disillusioned with politics… disillusion- of course, being the keyword.
Enjoy watching from the docks while rest of us pull this ship into port without your help.
I wish Walz did better at calling out ALL of Vance’s bullshit. Vance said, “we as republicans need to do better to earn your trust on bodily autonomy.”
It doesn’t take much effort to say bullshit. If you want to have more trust, then don’t get rid of the only thing protecting women’s bodies!
Honestly to me Walz looked so exasperated/disappointed that he was dealing with such a dumbass and his followers.
I got that feeling too. He was in shock a few times.
Sadly, both will resonate equally with their bases. Although I think they Walz had a better performance, I don’t think this debate changed anything.
According to the numbers, it didn’t.
This needs to be a billboard.
EEEEEEVERYWHEEEERE!
Is it just my imagination, or did that weasely fuck spend the entire time Walz was talking trying to do a Jim Halpert look at the camera?
Probably because it played so well for Harris.
That's because she was genuinely baffled. Vance was just faking.
I don't think the audience Vance's message is supposed to resonate with cares about being fact-checked, or facts in general.
Trump doesn't care if he's being fact-checked because facts don't matter to him, and his voters have the same outlook.
It's actually worse.
The core MAGA people are utterly convinced that 'fact checking' is literally the moderators lying to prevent Republicans from saying what is actually true.
They are way, way, waaaaay down the rabbit hole of the lugenpresse, I mean fake news, that basically any time the figures they adore/worship are ever fact checked, well actually that is evidence of a vast liberal media conspiracy against them.
They actively despise fact checking, and when it happens, this triggers their conspiracism harder.
The reason why Vance made a show of crying about fact checking was partly due to personal anger/embarrassment/whatever, but the other part is that he knows that complaining about it is appealing to core Trump voters.
And the fact that Lügenpresse has even come up at all is freaking wild. That's something which should send a chill down the spine of anyone with even a whiff of understanding of modern history.
That they're down the rabbit hole about it should be impossible. The whole idea should have been political suicide. I take it as evidence of the extreme control years and years of Republican propaganda has on its constituents. They not only vote against their own interests, but they now actively stand against democracy. Absolutely insane.
JD Vance actually said that it doesn't matter because, "It's how it feels."
This mirrors almost exactly what the Alex Jones staff said during depositions. It didn't matter if they had facts. What mattered is that the alternative felt true and they would report on that.
I’m no fan of Vance, but if you’re going to put Walz’s office in there, you have to include it for both of them.
Everyone look out, it's the fucking meme police lmao. 🚨
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