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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

I mean yes, change is hard and takes time and happens in sometimes-unnoticeable ways, but come on — throw me a bone and let me have something immediate to help keep motivating me toward the long-term change. If it were as simple as “keep doing it every day”, don’t you think I’d be doing that already?

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

I recently learned about dysthymia - basically a form of long-term functioning depression. Idk why I'd never heard about it before, but it for sure resonates with my experience.

Apparently, we should be able to get ~50/50 external/internal validation. For example, most healthy people can apparently do chores or something and get an internal sense of accomplishment that supports the external validation that is having completed chores.

The problem is, for some folks (hi there) we can't really put up the internal validation part. Like, I'd be expecting the completed chores to make me happy, but that's just not how it works. I need to be active in validating myself and saying something like, "good job dude!"

That shit is hard - especially if it's like the total opposite of what you heard growing up.

Relevant video

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

That shit is hard - especially if it's like the total opposite of what you heard growing up.

Oof ouch owie right in the childhood.

Yelled at for not doing it right, backhanded compliments/browbeating/guilt trips when I did do it right, and a long chain of doing things right not mattering at all in the face of a single misstep that didn't have to be some warning sign of an imminent monumental derailment but was always treated as such.


"So you want us to throw you a parade for doing what is expected of you?"

No. I want basic aknowledgement that I did it, with no strings attached. None of this "Wasn't that easier? See how easy that was? Maybe next time you'll just get it out of the way. Wow, it'd be so great if you did that all the time."

I just want you to say "Thanks for taking care of that" like a normal family would.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Haha, oh, that is childhood trauma I'm remembering, ha! Isn't that crazy.

This is why I'm never having kids. Took your comment for me to realize how obnoxious and condescending that was for my parents to treat me like that, God knows how many other awful mannerisms I'd repeat.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Very well put. I too have dysthymia. And unfortunately that “long-term functioning depression” can and does last for years on end. Not to mention that you can also suffer bouts of normal depression on top of the dysthymia depression. Double whammy, as it were.

But yes, I’m pretty sure (at least for me) the only way that I seem to be able to produce dopamine involves food; the junkier the better, but healthy food is not the same. It’s probably the sugar that does it. I’ve noticed the longer I go without eating sugary foods, the worse my moods get.

That video explains it very well. Thank you.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

I need to be active in validating myself and saying something like, "good job dude!"

Huh that is interesting. My sister gave me the tip of literally patting myself on the shoulder after a hard day and saying "good job."

I wonder if it's something like this, because as silly as it feels, it actually does trigger a little something - I guess like this feeling of self-solidarity, is how I'd put it.

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Basically. I think of it as allow yourself to get that dopamine hit, instead of doing what I do which is probably like think you should've done it already or see how easy that was, why didn't you do it sooner. Fuck all that. Say good shit bro! Turned out sick

Then hopefully you can make it a habit/ritual and actually make it feel natural or even funish.

Not there yet at all myself

[-] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Relevant video

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[-] How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

There is nothing simple about "keep doing it every day". There are so many reasons not to and it's up to you and you alone to find the reason or the will to "keep doing it every day."

In my experience, waiting for the carrot on the stick is much more likely to result in the whip

[-] MediumGray@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I completely agree with what you mean, but I would argue it is actually quite simple just not easy. People often talk about the two like they're the same but it's important to remember that at times simple things can be quite hard and complicated things may still be easy.

[-] How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

From a far enough view point anything can be "simple". Anyone who has ever had to design, build, or program something for a client can tell you that what is "simple" in concept can be very complex to execute.

Life happens to everyone and finding ways to fit in "doing the thing every day" can become a very complex problem.

[-] MediumGray@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Fair enough, like most matters of language I suppose it's ultimately subjective and comes down to differences in personal interpretations. Specific context and perspectives will always have the potential change things but by and large I stand by my point in general application.

[-] drolex@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 weeks ago

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[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

*~life~ ~changes~ ~not~ ~guaranteed~ ~to~ ~be~ ~desirable~

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago
[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago

literally hot and horny

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

Improve myself? No thank you I'll just disassociate.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, you don't happen to have the original image without text do you?

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