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[-] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This isn't a court of justice, son

this is a court of law

[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Tbf nowdays you're lucky if you get to court. Some are just gunned down

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

The blindfold on lady justice has a rich-people filter.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago

That's why she has a scale on one hand, so she can tell which side put more money

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Justice is blind. What you're seeing isn't actually justice.

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Aspirational talk isn't a bad thing.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Justice is blind.

Ideality is not reality though, it is a somewhat useful abstraction, about like any of the sciences; where there is always a scope of application and limitation in the entropy of reality.

The terminology of a Justice system is the primary fallacy. It is a legal system and legislative governance. These are not equivalent. Even the concept of justice is extremely subjective to many factors and perspectives.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

If justice isn't blind, why do we all know what it should be? Because our legal system is the manifestation of justice in our authority structure, and it isn't doing a good job of living up to the objective principles of justice.

The problem isn't the ideas of justice, the problem is the judicial branch of government.

[-] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 6 points 1 week ago

Does anyone think it's reality? It's an unreachable ideal to be continuously worked towards.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

It’s an unreachable ideal to be continuously worked towards.

No it isn't. It's a pretense that the class who controls the violent apparatus of the state is impartial. It's propaganda and nothing else.

[-] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's an ideal in that people should be working towards taking control of the state apparatus and making it so. The class struggle will always make it impossible to reach, but it can always be pushed to be better.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

It’s an ideal in that people should be working towards taking control of the state apparatus

People are ALREADY in control of the state apparatus. What we have is, by now, the very predictable result.

[-] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 1 points 1 day ago

Well, beyond that the alternative is to abolish the state, which I'm not against, but the ideal would remain.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

There is no such thing as "blind" justice. What they mean with "blind justice" isn't justice at all, but rather a blind application of and obedience to law - which liberalism have always (and utterly falsely) conflated with "justice."

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago

Or against, depending on your cultural values.

[-] Lexam@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

It is blind to the suffering of the poor.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It never has been, and if it ever were we wouldn't have needed all those statues of the chick with the scales and the blindfold as propaganda.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not much of a shower thought.

Your complaint is that the world isn't perfect.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 week ago

Also, it's a very vague and loaded comment. This really feels like it shouldn't be here.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

The american legal system isn't about justice

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

The american legal system isn’t about justice

None of them are. They are all about maintaning the status quo and nothing else.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The lady justice monologue from V for Vendetta by Alan Moore seems appropriate:

' Hello, dear lady. A lovely evening, is it not?

Forgive me for intruding. Perhaps you were intending to take a stroll. Perhaps you were merely enjoying the view.

No matter. I thought that it was time we had a little chat, you and I.

Ahh…I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced.

I do not have a name. You can call me V.

Madam Justice…this is V.

V…this is Madam Justice.

Hello, Madam Justice.

“Good evening, V.”

There. Now we know each other. Actually, I’ve been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you’re thinking…

“The poor boy has a crush on me…an adolescent infatuation.”

I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn’t like that at all.

I’ve long admired you…albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child.

I’d say, to my father, “Who is that lady?” and he’d say, “That’s Madam Justice.” And I’d say, “Isn’t she pretty.”

Please don’t think it was merely physical. I know you’re not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal.

That was a long time ago. I’m afraid there’s someone else now…

“What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!”

I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms!

Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn’t it? You thought I didn’t know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything!

Frankly, I wasn’t surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform.

“Uniform? Why, I’m sure I don’t know what you’re talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one…”

Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots!

Well? Cat got your tongue?

Very well. So you stand revealed at last. You are no longer my Justice. You are his Justice now. You have bedded another.

Well, two can play at that game!

“Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?”

Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did!

She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel.

I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know.

So goodbye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman that I once loved.

Here is a final gift. I leave it at your feet.

The flames of freedom. How lovely. How just. Ahh, my precious Anarchy…

“O beauty, ’til now I never knew thee.” '

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Does anyone actually think it is? That's the ideal, it's supposed to be aspirational.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

That’s the ideal, it’s supposed to be aspirational.

It was never an ideal. It was little more than a marketing gimmick.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago
[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

What tipped you off?

this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2024
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