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Ebook or Physical? (lemmygrad.ml)

I literally cannot focus when I'm reading online for some reason + I love looking at my books on my bookshelf, it makes me feel smart

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[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why not an ereader ? Don't need to connect that to internet and epaper screen is great.

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Ebooks really grew on me as of late. They are just way too convenient + easy to pirate

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Yup. Plus I can adjust font size for optimal reading. I have an old ass kindle and it's great for reading books. Sucks for reading PDFs though

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[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Physical books are great. But moving them is an absolute nightmare.

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

I had a bad falling out with a flatmate years ago and I basically had to say "fuck it" to maybe hundreds of books collected over a decade. It was my liberal phase, so I don't know how much of it I'd like to have now. The break made me the communist I am today, so I can't say I'm that sad.

I feel like we all have the dream of having a massive library room of our own, but who the fuck can afford that nowadays.

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Before I packed up to go travelling China I resolved to give away all my books to charity (barring a very select few that went to friends for safe keeping).

Asides from it being absolute murder to move them, they acted as a really good history of how I've changed as a person. A lot of liberal bullshit books amongst what a gave away that I was genuinely upset to be giving to anyone. I should have burned them

[-] miz@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

this is the process I went through recently when I found Bernie's 2018 book Where We Go From Here: Two Years in The Resistance on my bookshelf. I have a deep-seated block against burning books but I think I might work through it for this one

[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Too true. I have a pretty big collection of TTRPG books that are all fat hardcovers that look nice but moving them upstairs was rough.

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

I can't afford physical books

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

I love physical books! The way they look on my shelves, the way they feel in my hand, the vibe I get while reading them. However, I can’t ignore the convenience of my e-reader. It is great being able to have my whole library with me on the go.

So I would have to say both have then place. I still shop at book stores every chance I get, then I come home and pirate the same book for my e-reader.

[-] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I was listening to a podcast yesterday, and the two hosts, who have both written books, made a brief aside complaining about people pirating their books.

And I think they were failing to understand that, if I pirate your book and I really like it... I'll probably go out and buy a physical copy for myself. Or vice vera. I bought your book, but I want it on my ereader. Pirate it.

It's no different from the sales "lost" when people freely check out a book from the library. In fact, it will increase exposure to your book.

Lots of people have become incredibly successful, because their art got known through piracy networks. Think Metallica playing stadiums off the back of tape trading.

We talk all the time about how "piracy is media preservation" which is true, but it's also a form of media discovery, and I think we should talk about that more.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Especially small niche authors, I always try to buy a physical copy directly from them or from a non corporate bookstore.

If it’s like Asimov or Tolkien, I’m stealing that shit because their estates and shitty kids don’t need the couple cents the sale would yield them.

[-] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

That argument is the exact same one Netflix uses when they whine about "losing" money because peoole share accounts.

They aren't "losing" anything because if it wasn't free, most people would just do without. Like im not buying a fiction book if I don't know if ill like it, if I cant get it for free in some way, im just not reading it.

If I really like it I will buy a copy though

[-] roux@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I think part of the reason I really even got back into reading was because I picked up an ereader after learning about libgen. I'm actually mad I waffled on getting one so long since I turned into a reading champ like overnight because of it. I went from reading no books to reading 30 or so in the first year I bought it.

[-] beef_curds@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

besides piracy, it's so convenient having your whole library with you. Get bored with something on the train? You don't have to wait to get home to switch. I do like a dedicated device for books though, for focus reasons.

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ebooks, super easy to pick up and put down, and the E-Ink display solves the "can't focus" problem. I read theory on my phone though, a chapter at a time, I am working my way through a theory list that way. I find pockets of time, like traveling for work, lunch breaks, and other times I don't have my books or EReader with me, and I can't physically make myself sit and read theory for an extended time anyways like I can with good fiction. i-love-not-thinking

Another huge advantage is the monetary value. Ebooks are free, especially public domain. My favorite site for high quality ebooks is Standard Ebooks. I can get whatever I want, read as much as I like, for the single purchase of an EReader and the time it takes to cultivate my Calibre library.

However, if I am alone, with a nice cup of coffee or an espresso in a nice morning, physical books are hard to beat. Same goes for some nice piano jazz, a glass of whiskey, and my favorite books in the evening. The latest to really get me that way was Piranesi. Turning the physical page, smelling the paper, it's relaxation at its finest. toriel-snooze

I am thrilled to have rediscovered my childhood love for reading, it truly helps me in so many ways. aubrey-happy

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Ebooks are free,

ALL OF 'EM lea-finger-guns

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I still like to support living authors if I can kitty-cri-texas

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

There have been a few times where I yoinked a book, read the whole thing, and then bought a copy fwiw. I try to support indies and such when I can, although I am very broke.

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Oh I did that with Piranesi, yoinked it, loved it, bought it for my partner to read physically. Still, don't have the money I wish I did so I could support everyone, sadly

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Physical! Physical! I hate how libraries will get ebooks and then that's what I'm supposed to learn from. I hate tabbing back and forth between the """book""" and the browser. I hate having to scroll through a list of bookmarks, I hate not being able to hold my fingers in several places within the book at the same time so I can quickly switch back and forth. I can't imagine how people google, read and take notes all on the same device. If I had the time and resources I would set up a sewing machine so I can print and bind my own books.

[-] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I liked ebooks when I had 'em. Still have all my stuff, too, in case I get another one.

But there's a certain joy in having a physical copy. Similarly to OP's point about looking at them on a bookshelf, I like looking at and interpreting cover art. I like showing off cool and unique covers. Plus, there's a certain satisfaction in physically handing someone a book I've recommended. Sending a file just isn't the same.

[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I like my Kobo ereader a lot, but for those books I really enjoy/are important to me I want a bookshelf copy.

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[-] Kolibri@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I like to bounce between both. For some reason some days I can't do physical books but digital, but then other days I can't do digital and need physical.

[-] Shaleesh@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

My trusty ereader is the reason I've read more books in the past two years than I had in the prior ten before that. This is kinda hard to describe but my favorite feature is the ergonomic freedom they provide. I like to curl up in weird positions when reading or phonescrolling and traditional books aren't really conducive to that. With a bookybook you have to use both hands, you have to get them in the light, and they tend to require me to sit upright. With an ereader I can lie on my side in bed at night with the lights off while hugging a pillow and that shit is so fucking cozy.

All that being said, things like cookbooks, manuals, field guides and such basically require physical books to be useful IMO.

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

would you have any e-reader recommendations? I've been interested in finding one that I can pirate epubs and stuff onto

[-] magi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Any kobo, software support a decade later, less intrusive ads than kindle and can sideload ebooks with ease

[-] Shaleesh@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not exactly up to date on the current market but I can offer this:

Most eReaders have .epub capability, with the notable exception of the ones made by Amazon so you have a pretty wide selection to choose from. I have a Nook Glowlight 4e which serves me well. It's very barebones and has downright abysmal notetaking features but it has a backlight, physical buttons (super underrated), a long battery life, and font options so it's fine for lesiure reading. More modern devices have things like higher screen refresh rates, higher resolution, and more app connectivity. Note that some devices are compatible with ebook lending systems run through public libraries, if that interests you then by all means look into it, one of the best ways to support your local library is to use their services.

All that being said, if you're anticipating only loading books on manually then you would be fine with getting an older secondhand device on the cheap. IMO the most meaningful difference between "obsolete" and modern devices is access to online bookstores.

[-] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

ebbok. it's cheaper in the long run, easier to carry around (on public transport for instance), can highlight and bookmark easily

[-] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

E-books all the way. Piracy is awesome, but the biggest reason is being able to configure the font,size,spacing and margins. It's also easier to use with one hand and I can hold even very large books up so I don't get tech neck.

Physical books are nice because they're easy to lend, though.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I love physical copies and grab a few of books I like, but sadly they are literal shelf ornaments. Aside from ease of acquisition ( pirate-jammin ) factor, physical books are just objectively less useful. My kobo is smaller than a single paperback and I can fit ALL THE PAPERBACKS on it. It has a light so I can read in the dark. Tree shavings sadly can't compete, even if I like em.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Depends on if i like the book enough to spend money

[-] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Depends on the topic. For instance, i prefer physically reading books I borrow from the library for anything about economics or theory, because i feel like I can better focus on the physical text. Meanwhile the 900 page massive history book (about the Spanish Civil War) that I was recommended on GenZedong 4 years ago was not even available in my country and so I had to find it as an Ebook.

[-] Voidance@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I use an e-reader at home with an electronic pen and its cool to be able to underline and make notes with the ability to erase it. Also piracy is cool, I’ve been able to access so many obscure books that I would never have been able to get otherwise. I think those sites are probably the most important thing on the internet really. I read physical books when I’m on the bus or whatever because my ereader was expensive and I’m scared of breaking it.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Audiobook 😎

[-] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Ebook but only in my ereader that doesn't emit bluelight

I like the portability, pirating shit or borrowing from the library without having to touch physical books that might have stuff im allergic to on them from other people borrowing them (obviously can't be avoided with physical copies and how many allergies i have), being able to make the font gigantic, being able to just press on a word and have the definition come up, and how lightweight they are makes it easier for my joint issues.

If my joint pain is really bad I can even put it on a holder and use my page turner remote thing.

[-] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I have many physical books with sentimental value and no more space for more, so I've switched over to ebooks. Plus with ebooks I can read in the dark. Lastly, ebooks are free.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Can’t turn physical books into audiobooks to listen to while working, so until I retire or get enough space to hold books , I think it’s gonna be ebooks

[-] magi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I prefer ebooks, I can read in the dark and the reader is far more comfortable to hold than a physical book. Don't get me wrong I enjoy physical books but I can carry my library in my reader and never have to worry about the books being damaged, I also have my whole library backed up.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

For books I keep coming back to, physical is the way to go, because I'll have dog-eared and scribbled all over them. For books I don't know if I will use later, or that I reference sparingly, ebook is just fine.

[-] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

For fiction, I love my jailbroken ereader. Any nonfiction that calls for flipping around, checking back, etc. I need physical. And I keep a few fiction physicals around because they are pretty.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago
[-] magi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I have a Kobo Aura ONE and haven't felt the need to upgrade, it has a large screen, is very light. has a day and night mode too

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

I love my Libre 2, slapped Koreader on it and use it with Calibre.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

do you use a stylus or mark up your books?

do you know how the B&W ones compare to color in terms of blue light? they say they use stuff to reduce it, but it's hard to know without seeing it in person and trying it out

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

The one I have is not compatible with styluses, to my knowledge, I don't mark up my books. As for blue light, I am not sure. I use a standard black and white ereader, with the brightness set to 5%, just enough to be readable in total darkness, thanks to the e-ink screen any light is just a bonus, not a detractor.

I hate reading off of OLED or LCD, VA, etc for any extended period of time, so E-Ink is the way to go for me.

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