Yah, that would be a great solution in comparison, but it's still privacy invasive. Not as bad, but it's still not giving people due process.

Which, not everywhere in the world recognizes that principle as a right, I am aware. But I do consider due process a right, and scanning anything on anyone's devices without a legally justifiable reason is a violation of that.

I'm not willing to kowtow to a moral panic and just ignore the erosion of privacy "because the children". And it is a moral panic. As bad as it is, as much as I personally would enjoy five minutes alone with someone that's making or using kiddie porn of any stripe, it simply isn't such a common thing that stripping everyone of their privacy, in any way is acceptable.

They wanna figure out a way to target individuals suspected of that kind of crime, awesome. Untargeted, sweeping invasions simply are not acceptable, and I do not care what the purported reason of the week is; kiddie porn, terrorism, security, stopping drugs, I do not care. I have committed no crime, and refuse to give away the presumption of innocence for myself or anyone else.

I mean... Yes?

They don't need to lie to sell their oppression. They just do it because they're authoritarian.

Authoritarian regimes also do the same, although often with adult consentual porn instead of CSAM.

Authoritian regimes doesnt need to pretend. If they find out you are a risk they don't need to gather evidence to get you in prison, so they don't need to pretend they care about censoring the internet for the wrong reasons.

The issue here is the west want to do the same but need a valid justification. Instead of work to stop the actual abuse in the first place they want access to the only way for many people to share information safely.

You could be technically letrate and find your way around all the restrictions, but many people are not and they need access to secure communication channels to arrange there activism.

The fact we don't see backlash against twitter, Facebook, Google, and Apple tells alot about what is this about.

The fact we are seeing more support for "consent" for kids, and the fact that there were many major cases such as Epstein and Maxwell which has been obscured or even hidden when it comes to major profilic people says alot about their intent.

Yeah, fuck France.

I'm exaggerating, but France should be held accountable.

They've been delaying a vote on it because they haven't had enough support to get it through.

Looks like they'll prepare another round in October, which would be voted on in December. They'll want this to pass under the radar, preferably behind closed doors.

Seems enough countries have changed their stance that it could pass this time, unless we keep putting pressure on our representatives.

Signal does not. https://signal.org/bigbrother/santa-clara-county/

Tl;dr: Signal gave the court timestamps for three out of nine phone numbers that the court demanded data on. The timestamps were the dates three phone numbers last registered their accounts with Signal. That’s it. That is all the data there was to give.

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