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Threads deepens its ties to the open social web, aka the ‘fediverse’ | TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)

submitted 2 months ago by Fitik@fedia.io to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Meta announced that users on Threads will be able to see fediverse replies on other posts besides their own. In addition, posts that originated through the Threads API, like those created via third-party apps and scheduling services, will now be syndicated to the fediverse.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 83 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Great.
I joined the Fediverse to escape Facebook's toxic interpretation of communities, so Facebook is coming to the Fediverse instead.
Just great...

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 18 points 2 months ago

You should just join an instance that blocks threads.net. Fortunately there are many of such instances. Your current instance doesn't seem to defederate any other instance, which is kind of suspect on its own.

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[-] Auster@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Blocking everyone and every community you see from Facebook's new parasite social media could be good, me thinks.

[-] Fitik@fedia.io 28 points 2 months ago

@Auster@lemm.ee You can just use an instance that is defederated from them, that's the beauty of the Fediverse

According to https://lemm.ee/instances your instance already blocks them for example

@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org

[-] tilefan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

can't you selectively block entire instances? you can in Boost

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's not just a matter of blocking Threads users.

Facebook is coming on here to slurp up data I don't want them to have, and enriching their own Threads ecosystem with Fediverse content they haven't lifted a finger to create.

Not to mention, when Threads users are able to fully interact in the Fediverse, do you really want that particular bunch to create noise in your communities? I don't. There's a reason why I avoid Facebook in all its forms.

[-] kobra@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago

Uh.. this fediverse stuff is all on the public internet. Facebook could be slurping it up just as easily without joining at all.

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[-] tilefan@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

right but if I block their instance, they can never interact with me and vice versa.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Aw, buddy, cheer up.

Here's some minions memes doing racist things! I mean, I assume thats what goes on if you're on facebook.

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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 11 points 2 months ago

Check https://fedipact.online for instances that have defederated threads. Good luck! :)

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[-] Eggyhead@fedia.io 37 points 2 months ago

I don’t like this rebranding to “open social web” like it was made for them.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

Something that is open and free was, by definition, made for everyone. Even the robber barons you hate.

[-] Fitik@fedia.io 32 points 2 months ago

Note: You can't interact with Threads accounts from Lemmy, but you can interact with Threads accounts from MBin (and maybe PieFed), except if your instance is defederated from them obviously

There's POTUS account for example @potus@threads.net

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Why not Lemmy?

[-] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 33 points 2 months ago

Lemmy doesn't implement Mastodon (which is the fediverse version of Twitter), only their own Lemmy one (Reddit clone). Kbin and Mbin implement both, as does pyfedi/piefed.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

What happened to Kbin btw? I used to be on there since the start but the page has been broken since a while for me

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

It was run by one guy who had health issues. So it shut down. Mbin is the main fork now.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

Ah I see. Good thing someone continued it tho!

[-] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The owner of kbin.social (and creator of kbin incidentally) has been MIA for a few months now, so it's presumed that it's over. I haven't heard of anything concrete regarding the fate of kbin.social or ernest though - unless someone has heard differently, it remains possible that ernest returns in a year or two and brings kbin.social back up.

Edit: I thought that https://kbin.earth/ still existed as an instance still running ernest's original flavour of kbin (as opposed to its sucessor mbin) but it turns out it has been moved to mbin as per the reply below.

With that, I'm not sure if anyone is still on the original kbin codebase at this point.

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Why does Lemmy not interact with Mastodon if the other two can?

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago

Design choice by the creators.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Am I the only one who thinks that's a bad choice? The whole point of the fediverse is that all the things are connected.

[-] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 10 points 2 months ago

Lemmy is open source and so anyone who wants to add this functionality is free to do so.

Considering who the original creators of Lemmy are and the controversy over lemmygrad.ml however, I'd say that we dodged a bullet, all things considered.

If you want a thing that tries to integrate with everything, consider pyfedi - in addition to Lemmy and Mastodon they also have code to integrate with pixelfed and probably even more things (I'm still learning about all the integrations that it has).

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

So I tried to search for pyfedi, and the only things I found are some repos. Not quite sure what to do with that. HOWEVER, a few different repos seemed to list piefed as the thing it do.

So is pyfedi the same as piefed.social ?

I am enjoying the layout of piefed. It's quite tasty! I hope this is the thing that does the other thing.

But what if I transfer my Lemmy account to Piefed? Will I still be able to create communities on Lemmy.World? Or am I going to just end up with two different accounts, on two different sites, that do 97% the same thing?

Or am I just wrong all around, and pyfedi has nothing to do with piefed, and I've stumbled onto a different thing that does the thing that the other thing couldn't do, but is still connected to, but not in the same way, but still uses the same services?

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[-] Fitik@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

Because right now the Threads federation is still pretty one sided, the Fediverse users can reply to the Threads posts, but the Threads users can't see the Fediverse posts, only replies

And with how Lemmy works, you can't reply to the microblogging accounts, you can't reply to Mastodon's posts neither, so you can't get your replies federated

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

That doesn't seem right. I remember responding to a few mastodon threads from lemmy and I was able to see my reply on the other end.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

Why would I want to interact with people on threads? I’m here for the Lemmy community.

[-] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 6 points 2 months ago

Yep, pyfedi supports Mastodon integration just like mbin.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago

Not quite as good as Mbin. For example you can't follow someone on mastodon from PieFed. They can follow you, though.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Boo. Go away Zuck and take your shitty vertical videos with you.

[-] NostraDavid@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago

We used to say that people who made vertical videos had Vertical Video Syndrome. It was a terrible time.

[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

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[-] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It took around a year for a solo dev (and a couple contributors) to develop a fully federated platform. Why is it taking one of the largest companies on the planet this long to make such tiny changes that are useless anyway.

And why are they releasing it like this instead of releasing everything at once?

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Because every step of the way, they need a flock of MBAs to figure out the answer to the question "How do we make money off of this?"

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

I'm rather guessing the other way around. Because they can't directly extract money from this, they can't justify to their shareholders to sit down full-time devs. Instead, this is a project solely run by interns and student.

[-] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

It is a different level of scale, mastodon has about 1 million users spread over a bunch of instances. Threads has over 200 million users on one instance. also due to the network nature of social media the amount of connections and messages sent through those connections can scale exponentially with the amount of users.

[-] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 11 points 2 months ago

Definitely can appreciate the carefulness here. Imagine they just open the floodgates and now some random Mastodon instance on a $5 VPS is getting hammered with millions of activities because they followed an account with millions of followers on Threads, and now it's federating millions of likes and thousands of posts.

Meta is trying to be a good fediverse participant here. They could just come in and crush the entire fediverse and be like "lol should have gotten beefier servers".

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[-] Jimbo@yiffit.net 20 points 2 months ago

I am so glad my instance is defederated

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago

same

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[-] fadhl3y@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I don't think i've ever seen a Threads message in any of my Lemmy / Mastodon feeds. Perhaps I'm not mixing in the right circles?

[-] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Your instance likely defederated threads

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

Threads posts wouldn't really appear on lemmy unless they deliberately format the post to tag a community. And they wouldn't be able to see replies either.

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Fediverse is not super far from original internet idea with the exception of convenient block feature. Let’s hope that’s enough to prevent the sequel.