X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's content orders : technology

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 149 points 11 months ago

Congrats Brazil

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 118 points 11 months ago

“Brazil sees massive drop in alt right hate speech”

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago

finally some fucking good news

[+] downpunxx@fedia.io 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

true, but they had a local presence for reasons that benefited them; legal, operational, commercial, strategic, whatever. So I'll take it as good news.

[–] fernandofig@reddthat.com 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But it isn't. Now people get to spread misinformation to Brazilians with no repercussions.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

and do you think there were repercussions before?

whatsapp does this misinformation job immensely better

[–] fernandofig@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

and do you think there were repercussions before?

For X? Sure, that's why they're leaving in the first place - by not complying to the judge's orders, they'd surely get slapped with fines and such. As a company, it makes sense to leave and avoid being accountable, but given the influence they (sadly) still have in the media, avoiding those repercussions and letting bad actors do their thing, they're adding gasoline to the burning world.

The fact that Whatsapp is more popular in Brazil than X is beside the point.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

They can just block the IP in Brazil too

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 11 months ago

What's going to happen the next time the government or judges called them from something? They don't respond and the judge are going to order the ISP to stop forward data from and to them, blocking them on Brazil. It's not even going to be the first time, brazillian judges have had fights with whatapp before, and for a couple of days whataap have been blocked. Whatapp move like 10% of the Brazilian economy, so it was solved quickly, Twitter is nowhere as relevant and nobody is going to care when its end blocked.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Complete X ban doesn't seem too far-fetched to me after this, as they have closed the offices, they won't be able to moderate stuff...

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it led to eventual ban https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/30/brazil-orders-suspension-of-elon-musks-x.html

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

Lucky for them

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

One down couple hundred more to go.

[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You apparently forget he said Twitter needed major before he bought it.

It's by design. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Well-played, Brazil

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Earlier this year, Moraes ordered X to block certain accounts, as he investigates so-called "digital militias" that have been accused of spreading fake news and hate messages during the government of far-right former President Jair Bolsonaro.

That sounds very "on brand" for the company these days.

Should journalists start referring to the platform as "the far-right hate speech platform formerly known as Twitter"?

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Too wordy. Try: Naxi.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

I like it. I really enjoy calling it Xitter though.

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Brazil does not fuck around. They famously jailed several Microsoft execs when they didn't hand over some emails a few years ago.

Edit: Skype data not emails and one exec

[+] Endward23@futurology.today -6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They famously jailed several Microsoft execs when they didn’t hand over some emails a few years ago.

And somehow, thats a good thing? To break the security of communication on demand of the gouverment?

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I never said it was a good thing. I was just commenting on the aggressive nature of Brazil LEO. Microsoft in particular bends over backwards for any gov't or LEO. I can only assume the Feds got substantial leverage over them, perhaps by manipulating the antitrust cases. Same tactics they use on the smaller guys works on the big corps too I guess. Top customer of MS legal compliance is by far the US Fed with 5000-7000 blanket surveillance of Americans presumably part of PRISM. Second highest is definitely Brazil, and they are very demanding and impatient.

Back in 2016, MS was advertising Customer Lockbox as an answer to gov't intrusion into customer privacy. It sounded perfect. Customer gets encryption keys so MS cannot comply with lawful interception requests. I think Apple does this, and it works well for them and their customers. However today I cannot tell if MS lied, dismantled this aspect of this feature, or buried it such that no one uses this ability.

While we're talking about MS playing snitch, watch out for Windows 11 and the TPM hardware requirement. Sure this might be a useful tool to fight ransomware scammers, but it definitely can also be used to fingerprint a PC and make everything potentially traceable. Look up machine identification code aka yellow dots for a nifty parallel in the printer world (pun intended).

[–] Endward23@futurology.today 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Back in 2016, MS was advertising Customer Lockbox as an answer to gov’t intrusion into customer privacy.

Got it. Sorry for the missunderstanding.

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Hopefully you don't care, but in case you do I didn't downvote you. I was not offended, but I am grateful I had an opportunity to share some of the unique insights I've experienced.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 14 points 11 months ago

Excellent

[–] Endward23@futurology.today 12 points 11 months ago

I really wonder how long X aka Twitter can operate within the EU. The EU is on a smiliar tracetion in my opinion.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I would not mind if my countries' judges grew the same kind of brass balls that the Brazilain Judge sports.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago

Lol they need to shut down in Indonesia as well Twitter regularly accept censorship request from Indonesian government

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago

This Nazi war-mongering website needs to be shut down everywhere.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So Bolsonaro won't get elected again, uh.

I'm surprised to be saying this but thank you Elon Muppet.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

afaik he's still barred from running for office until 2030, as a result of undermining the validity of the electoral process - the same process that once elected him btw...

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He'll be 75yo in '30. Still viable as a candidate.

And, for '26, he's still the one deciding who's going to run for his party. One of the options is his wife Michelle Bolsonaro, a vulture from the same flock as her husband.

Now with Twitter out of the equation* they'll have a harder reaching their base.

EDIT: actually scrap that. It's only its offices, the service will be still available. Fuck it, now I'm sour.

[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Made me think this was the good news community.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

Good for Brazilians I guess

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