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To be clear, while the article says this is "official support", this is only drivers provided by valve.

Per valve:

We are providing these resources as is and are unfortunately unable to offer 'Windows on Deck' support.

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[–] Muffi@programming.dev 181 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Great! Like installing square wheels on my bike

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago

Minecraft players in en shambles right now.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 74 points 2 years ago

I'd rather have SteamOS officially support more devices including desktop. Good on Valve for giving people options though.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 64 points 2 years ago
[–] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would rather trust GamingOnLinux here:

While it is not in any way officially supported by Valve, they have now released Windows drivers for the newer Steam Deck OLED model.

(emphasis mine)

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that is a good point to make.

Main reason I linked the steamdeckhq coverage is because they covered it last night, where gamingonlinux didn't have any coverage of it until a few hours ago.

[–] nobody158@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cool but also meh, I really like steams and have had 0 issues getting games to play.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's a great option for people who wants to play those games where the anti cheat system doesn't support Linux

[–] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 3 points 2 years ago

Also great for people who want to take advantage of gamepass.

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Blech! Why would somebody sully such a wonderful device with a piss patty OS?

[–] Reawake9179@lemmy.kde.social 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I could imagine that games with invasive anti cheats are a reason.

As someone who played a couple, i just stopped playing them.

I'm a little sad they did this, i hoped that the pressure on the game devs would rise so they support Linux, oh well.

[–] andreluis034@bookwormstory.social 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Personally, I think this is great because I can now use my game pass subscription on the steam deck, I know I could use the cloud functionality on steamos, but it is not the same.

This limitation made be realize the vendor lock-in that game pass is, sure it provides awesome value, but forces you to have windows or buy an Xbox.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why did you subscribe to services you couldn't use?

I only bought a steam deck recently, when I subscribed for 3 years, I mostly gamed on Windows or on my Xbox.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago

True, still a little salty I had to cancel the subscription, I genuinely liked it. But I'm not installing Windows.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 41 points 2 years ago
[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 years ago

Good news, Lemmy! You will no longer be forced by big tech corporations to run uh... [checks notes] a version of Linux on your Steam Deck anymore!

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 30 points 2 years ago

Uhhh...well. that's...um. sure. Someone could do that.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I’ve used the ASUS ROG Ally and I do not recommend running Windows on anything, let alone a handheld. Don’t tarnish your Steam Deck with this!

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[–] recursive_recursion@programming.dev 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

who would use it when Linux just works in addition to Microsoft's continued enshitification of Windows?

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The only reason to use Windows over Linux is compatibility with certain games (or even applications). Also the price of the device is pretty low. That means people who are interested into handheld PCs who want to use it as a sort of laptop for cheap and don't care about Linux, can still install Windows on it. I'm not recommending it, but I'm glad people have this option and Valve is not actively trying to stop people (unlike other companies).

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah I'm sure they have their reasons but if it were up to me I would never allocate resources for that.

"Let it rot and fester somewhere else"

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[–] Stampela@startrek.website 28 points 2 years ago

And then there’s me, who got a new laptop a couple of days ago after looking into things, and the pre installed Windows worked perfectly to test the hardware worked fine… before being replaced by Linux.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 years ago
[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Good to have the option, but probably only worth it if you play anti cheat infested games or subscribe to game pass. I'll stick with the OS optimised for the hardware

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[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 19 points 2 years ago

What if I told you, you can pay money for spyware

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Geez why are some people so ready to install malware.

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 years ago

"I see youre trying to shutdown your computer. Would you like to buy more OneDrive storage?"

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 11 points 2 years ago

No thanks 🤮

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a bit late. The original Steam Deck had drivers for Windows too. But is this really "official support"? I mean Valve gives no guarantees that Windows will work fine. Valve gives the drivers away, so people can do whatever they want, but makes no promise and do not support it officially on their website. So I'm a bit confused by the terminology. Maybe its still too early in the morning...

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah calling this official support isn't quite what is actually happening. "Windows works now on the SteamDeck OLED" on the other hand doesn't generate as many clicks...

[–] tombruzzo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Valve are working on getting SteamOS to work on the ROG Ally X so maybe they're doing this to help get SteamOS to work on windows first handhelds and make it work better across the 3rd party handheld landscape.

Like you've got to take two steps back to take a step forward

[–] nous@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

I don't see why this would help. More likely there are two different teams/people working on either side separately from each other. I bet the windows work involves a lot more work on Microsoft's or the chip manufacturer's side than valves.

[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 9 points 2 years ago

Fortnite OS

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Weird that the drivers are that dramatically different for the OLED version.

The standard Steam Deck Windows drivers have been out for ages, I have a Win11 external SSD and it works fine.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Weird that the drivers are that dramatically different for the OLED version.

The WiFi and BT modules are completely different (the OLED's product page says this since the announcement), hence new drivers required.

[–] LexGear@mastodon.gamedev.place 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Some games have security software that requires Windows. Destiny 2 for example.

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[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

So now you can play fortnite on the steam deck. I like to think valve did this just to mess with epic.

Also... Photoshop I guess?

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