They've missed AirBNB and the likes.
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That is a lower circle of hell.
Isn't that how silicon valley worked for years even within itself? Run a loss for long enough until you've overtaken the market and then raise prices when the competition has lost their edge.
That's what China is trying to do with their EVs in other markets right now too as another example.
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You might want to look up "Enshitification".
No surprises here...
It didn't suddenly go that way. It was always the plan. A loss leader.
First new word I learned on lemmy a few months back.
I think of it multiple times a day when browsing my RSS feed
Hell yeah to those websites that still publish RSS feeds, though
All the websites I follow do, so I am lucky
But yeah instant +1 if a website offer RSS feeds
Chokepoint capitalism moreso than enshittification. Both are terms from Cory Doctorow.
yeah that's basically what this
Turns out making everything into a subscription service doesn't make it better, it just makes it worse.
Surprise we got scammed again.
Cloud was never supposed to be “cheap”. It has always been a utility based model where you pay for how much you use it. The problem is, way too many people used is as a 1:1 replacement without rearchitecting their workloads, so of course it’s gonna be more expensive.
Not just that, but the big value proposition was supposed be that you wouldn't need sysadmins. In practice, these services are so complex that you need a dedicated skill set to use them, except now it's specific skills for each provider that aren't directly transferable.
Which means you can sell support in addition to the service itself. Mission accomplished!
Not to mention the benefits of having vendor lock in, since migrating to a different service becomes prohibitively expensive.
next up: ai is 100x more expensive than people
Well it may not be accurate or effective, but at least it's expensive.
Hahaha
Wait till the CFOs start tallying up the GenAI bills...
Uber was always more expensive then a taxi, at least in NYC/London. It was originally marketed as a "luxury" transportation option. The cloud was always ~2x more Operation Expenses with the value proposition that you didn't have any Capital Expenses so if you were a startup it was easier to sell-out and get started with lower risk. Streaming is still cheaper then cable, but it is getting shittier.
Streaming is still cheaper than cable
That really depends on where you live. With my current provider here in the Netherlands, I would be paying 12.50 euros extra for TV.
Netflix standard is already more expensive than that at 13.99.
I poem you.
Stremio, Torrentio, Realdebrid, Shieldtv.
I use Stremio which has tbs torrentio plugin. But what are the others?
Realdebrid serves torrents instantly from torrentio at 3 bucks a month. Nvidia shieldtv Pro is the best media steamer (*in my opinion which is probably worthless). I had Apple TV's running Stremio, but it was a pain in the butt syncing, so I gave those away.
A primary purpose of technology under capitalism is the violent control of people and the planet. Any actual progress is an unwanted side effect.
I've been adding a bunch of torrent-focused features to both lemmy-ui and jerboa this week, the next releases of both should have them.
Oh that's very exciting!
Long live plex, set sails
Jellyfin FTW! Free for all.
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Is there a reasonable explanation for this or is it plain greed? In my book, technology gets always cheaper, but scalability is also always a concern.
It's just greed. Companies exist to create profit for their shareholders, any social value they produce in the process is strictly incidental.
That's not "greed". It's capitalism.
Sure, capitalism is a system that rewards greed and egoism ensuring that psychopaths rise to the top of the society.
Yawn.
Or do you think such people don't rise to the top in socialist systems?
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You said greed twice. Or you said capitalism twice.
Clowd was never cheap; it was versatile, and it still is.
Just, please, get over this 'cheap' fallacy. It's expensive as shit, either in direct costs or the labour required to min-max for savings. If you're not regularly bulldozing a massive portion of your stuff or running in two regions for resilience, then you should just look at another idea -- and Don't say Azure, as there's a reason we call that cheap hot-garbage 'unsure'.
Indeed.
Cloud is useful for things like flexibility - you need massive dynamic expansion/contraction of resources? Cloud can do it... But at a cost.
Or for a startup - you need resources quickly, but don't want to invest in physical hardware because that's a risky investment if the business doesn't survive. But again, it's not cheap.
Worst of all, each cloud provider has a convoluted system of features, by design, intended to lock you in to their system once you learn it. So you still have staff dedicated to that.
The problem with cloud is much better explained here (I have no idea who this person is, just found their blog to be well written).
thank you. came to the comments to say exactly this.
cloud could be cheap, but it's a lot of work, or at least attention. people get disappointed with the costs, paradoxically, because cloud is easy and, as you put, versatile. and often between any two options allowing to do the same thing, the easier one will be more expensive.
the biggest irony of the cloud is that many companies it seems, just like different species evolved into crabs, discover that all they need is a couple of own servers in a managed hosting environment, a CDN and outlook.