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[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 104 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Vance’s Tuesday stop [in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania] is just the start of a three-day, four-state tour, Politico previously reported. Next up: visits to Detroit, Michigan, and Eau Claire, Wisconsin, on Wednesday, plus an additional stop in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Thursday. Those trips will bracket Harris and her running mate’s rallies in each of those cities.

So not just weird, but creepy-stalker-ex kinds of weird.

I see what I see.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago (1 children)

✔️ - couch fucker
✔️ - dolphin porn connoisseur
✔️ - vice-presidential / presidential candidate stalker

JD sure is stacking up those bona fides

[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Jd is a creepy weirdo, but the couch story was made up.

Not directed at you (unless you already knew it was fake, I guess) - I fucking hate it when people feel the need to make up stuff about someone who already has plenty of real red flags that need attention.

[–] brianary@startrek.website 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Beating them at their own dishonest game has worked much better than trying to fact check them, and getting completely outpaced, ever did.

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I agree with you in principle, but I think the words you're using are flawed.

The electorate have devolved into petty, schoolyard name-calling. Still, it's possible to use that language of pettiness to point out the factual hypocrisy, dishonesty, duplicity and lies of the Republicans' messaging, and maybe hang a couple of relatively harmless schoolyard labels on them with it.

But, why is it effective? Many times authoritarians are insecure in themselves, almost as a rule. Call a fascist a fascist and they'll double down as they fantasize about their boot on your neck. Call them a weirdo in front of everyone else and suddenly they're the part of the out crowd. They already feel victimized because there's more of us than there are of them, so it sticks.

Sometimes it's jarring enough for them to give them pause and make them ask if this is really who they are. If maybe there's a way to get back into the in crowd.

We don't need to play their dishonest game using lies, they give us so much to work with already.

Finally: yes, we can certainly use better judo than we have been to beat them at it. That's why I agree with you.

[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

From an outside perspective on the other side of the world, I disagree. Any lie, once uncovered, makes it so much easier for even the the worst positions to be defended. 'See, they have to make shit up about us, they have nothing'. Bam, now even all the other factual points are discredited in the eyes of many people who may have been on the fence.

[–] brianary@startrek.website 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not what I've observed in the last 20 years for either side, but I guess we'll see.

[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Really? You haven't seen a rise in facts being deemed false? Or maybe news being deemed fake? Maybe there's even been a new term created for it that is being thrown around a lot by one side in particular.

Doesn't seem like a good idea to give them more examples they can point to when they want to discredit your facts

[–] brianary@startrek.website 5 points 3 months ago

That's not at all the assertion you made.

What I haven't seen was any effective debunking that moved the needle.

[–] BigLgame@lemy.lol 4 points 3 months ago

Okay you get on stage and make a salient point about how you did infact not fuck a couch.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Then why did the AP take down their fact check that said Vance didn’t fuck a couch.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago

Because you can't prove something like that happened or didn't so they wanted to protect their image and stick with only things that can actually be fact checked.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep. I'm worn out with the snarky couch thing. It was fake. Be better y'all.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 months ago

It can be proven that the quote from his book is fake, but it can't be proven that he doesn't fuck soft, plum couches

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Going around, sniffing the couches she's sat on.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 months ago

That she sat on it is pure coincidence. He just does that to all couches

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ooooo... Is that.... Leather? Rubs between the couch cushions

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This comment wins the Internet today.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

I ain't here to kink shame, and yet, I am.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago

He’s following Harris around because Trump is literally too old and tired to do Harris’ level of campaigning. And in a few hours Harris will have a VP also running around. Best of luck JD. Harris has been flying to several states a day.

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

JD she is not a voluptuous couch that you dream of

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

jd's actually going up to wisconsin to visit ashley in arcadia. EAU just happens to be the airport he's flying into to get there.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

B-B-But she's made with black indian leather!
A-A-And the p-p-pussy cat fragrance of dolphins.
Wearing rubber....gloves.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

This part is amazing:

Vance needled Harris on Monday for not being more accessible to reporters herself.

“This moment could set off a real economic calamity around the globe,” he wrote on X. “It requires steady leadership—the kind President Trump delivered for four years. Kamala Harris is too afraid to answer media questions and cannot lead us in these troubled times.”

Things are dire! We need leadership! Why isn't the vice president giving press conferences?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That JD Vance fucker is really cringe and weird.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

*That JD Vance the couch fucker is really cringe and weird.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago

Bro her heritage is intersectional. It doesn't mean what you think it means!

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

Such a weird stalker type of guy.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Don’t forget your eyeliner.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The couch fucker is also a stalker?

[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or a lost little dog that misses its master.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He's definitely the master when it comes to fucking a couch. Much like other little dogs.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

mastur

FTFY

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

He doesn’t even use lube like the rest of us

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago
[–] Blackout@kbin.run 8 points 3 months ago

Just like a predator!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ohio man follows woman across country as she interviews for a promotion; believes octogenarian more capable despite him being let go from same position 4 years prior

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 3 months ago

if your not the lead dog the view never changes.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Sloppy seconds