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The growth of Linux desktop marketshare, in percent of total, since 2009 (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@programming.dev

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"Linux hits another all-time high for July 2024 according to Statcounter". Liam Dawe. GamingOnLinux. Published: 2024-08-01T11:35Z. Accessed: 2024-08-04T19:21Z. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/08/linux-hits-another-all-time-high-for-july-2024-according-to-statcounter/.

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[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 78 points 3 months ago

The only line which I demand must only go up.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 15 points 3 months ago

Yes

[-] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

300% percent Linux market share by 2070!

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 67 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is a big deal. More Linux users leads to more Linux-supporting software, which leads to more users.

The biggest resistence is front-loaded into that first few percent.

In my opinion, advancements in binary compatibility accross distributions (Flatpak, AppImage, ...) and broad compatibility with Windows software (Wine and forks... thank you Valve!) are making Linux easier to use.

[-] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is a big deal. More Linux users leads to more Linux-supporting software, which leads to more users.

It should correlate with more donations , the donations linux mint are getting are also growing fairly consistently. the same is true for the "Open Source Collective" which is a fiscal host for open source projects.

[-] balder1993@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

At the same time, I feel like nowadays there's less forums or places people can ask help with, although today ChatGPT can be a good help with newbie questions.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I feel like nowadays there's less forums or places people can ask help with

I'm sorry, what??

There are more places than ever to find support. The Ubuntu forums, EndeavourOS forums, Manjaro forums, NixOS forums, SUSE forums, etc. Just about every larger distro has it's own forum and they're all very active. Then there are general Linux, Linux "newbie", Linux help communities on the various Lemmy servers and (whether you like it or not) on Reddit also. Then there's Mastodon. General tech forums like Level1Tech, Hacker News, etc.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 months ago

The Arch wiki is also great.

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 3 months ago

... Even if you don't use Arch Linux.

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

I dont know about that. There is Lemmy and a ton of Distros or respins I know have forums.

Some have chatrooms which totally suck for finding information.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 51 points 3 months ago

To the moon, boys!

[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

the only chart I care about

[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

💎👐

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 months ago

In 2424 108.5% of people will use linux 👍

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

It’s data extrapolation time!

[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

relevant xkcd

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why would you use a linear approximation, this clearly looks like exponential growth (for the last 9 years).

Linux will obviously achieve 100% market share within the next few years.

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[-] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 31 points 3 months ago

Someone should add major Windows releases on the X axis. There's gotta be some correlation.

[-] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 months ago

I had dabbled in it off and on since LONG LONG ago, but I only went full time (no dual boot) since windows 11 release. So yeah, I bet there's lots others like me.

[-] doughless@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I had been dual booting for a while with Windows 11/Fedora until one day I needed to update the BIOS on my motherboard. Windows decided it was too big of an upgrade and wanted me to activate again. I called support, and they said that I had used up all my activations and would need to buy a new copy.

Thanks Microsoft, for helping me switch full time to Linux!

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

They force you to re-buy the same software for literally the same hardware. That's insane.

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[-] Zangoose@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

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[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Great for portable gaming machines ✅️

Resurrect old Pc/laptops ✅️

Great for Servers ✅️

Gratis and open sources✅️

Feed multiple derivated systems with his codes (for free) ✅️

Is not Windows ✅️✅️✅️

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

If I wasn’t already sold, I’d be sold.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 25 points 3 months ago

I really really hope this will lead to some major UX improvements as more "normal people" start trying to use Linux. Currently, it's still often too complicated or cumbersome, if not downright buggy.

Example: I run Kubuntu and about 20% of the time when I plug in my external monitors, all my windows just crash. Things need to get to a state of "just working" much more often and in many more cases. I hope this surge of users will motivate people to move towards that or maybe bring in more contributors to advance that area.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I installed a new GPU and it changed the device name of my NIC so all my network setup suddenly broke.

Now every ~5th time I wake my computer from sleep the monitor comes on briefly and I then get a black screen. If I turn the monitor off and back on it fixes it.

Would be cool to have more people on Linux finding and fixing these little details.

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago

Would be cool to have more people on Linux finding and fixing these little details.

Unlikely to happen. This is very complicated low level stuff that's often completely undocumented. Often the hardware is buggy but it works with Windows/Mac because that's what it's been tested with, so you're not even implementing a spec, you're implementing Windows' implementation.

Also the few people that have the knowledge to do this a) don't want to spend a ton of money buying every model of monitor or whatever for testing, and b) don't want to spend all their time doing boring difficult debugging.

I actually speak from experience here. I wrote a semi-popular FOSS program for a type of peripheral. Actually it only supports devices from a single company, but... I have one now. It cost about £200. The other models are more expensive and I'm not going to spend like £3k buying all the other models so I can test it properly. The protocol is reverse engineered too so.. yeah I'll probably break it for other people, sorry.

This sort of thing really only works commercially IMO. It's too expensive, boring and time consuming for the scratch-an-itch developers.

[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago

If Linux adoption reaches a critical mass then the manufacturers will start fixing these issues themselves. If Linux was 30% of all users and AMD paid a team to fix Linux support, they would eat the competition alive, but if Linux is 3% it doesn't make sense for them to devote resources to fixing Linux.

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

True but it'll have to be like 10% and I don't see that happening ever really. Unless Microsoft really screws up, which to be fair they are doing their best.

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[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 3 months ago

I run Kubuntu and about 20% of the time when I plug in my external monitors, all my windows just crash.

This one's weird.
GPU issue? Or something with older OS?

I use KDE and have never seen a similar problem.

Sure, stuff may get wonky, but crashing windows on monitor detection is a big deal.

[-] arendjr@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

I have a Framework laptop (Intel GPU) with Arch and KDE, and while I’ve never seen all windows crash when connecting an external monitor, I wouldn’t call it out of the ordinary for one or two to crash after I connect one, especially if I try to drag one to a new position right after.

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago

10% growth in 1 month is huge. If that keeps up then everyone will be on Linux soon.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 15 points 3 months ago

Get this man in front of some shareholders

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[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Do you mean that as a relative 10%? Because this chart maxes out at 5%.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah, relative. From ~4% to ~4.4%.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

For liberty!

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 3 months ago

For freedom ☠️

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Thanks Steam and Microsoft!

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago

In 2 months, it has increased by over 0.5%

If the growth continues, it will reach 100% in 30 years!

[-] marretics@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 months ago

My god, does that mean we'll be at 200% in 60 years?😱

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 8 points 3 months ago

In 120 years, people will each have 4 linux computers

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[-] bitcrafter@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago

A Linuxponential curve!

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago

It feels really good to be a part of this wave!

[-] rainynight65@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago

You could almost be forgiven for not realising that every point on that Y axis is a mere half percent...

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 16 points 3 months ago

All the usual caveats apply. Linux still comes behind "unknown" in Statcounter, whose methodology is... dubious, and the Steam survey has Linux at 2%, flat from the previous checkpoint.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

It makes sense that Steam is lower, since gaming historically has been one of the biggest things keeping people from switching. That's no longer the case, but it'll take time to convert people.

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[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah there's no way I trust their methodology has stayed that stable over 15 years. Hell if you just look in the last year supposedly 3% of global users jumped from Mac to Windows in a single month (Nov 2023).

There are also loads of new Linux device classes that may have Linux in their user agent but aren't really "the year of the Linux desktop" that you're thinking of. It seems they try to count ChromeOS (though badly - seems like "Unknown" contains a lot of ChromeOS depending on the month), and obviously Android, but what about Steam Deck? Smart devices with web browsers built in? Is your Tesla desktop Linux?

I'd buy it's gone up; not to 4% though. I would be moderately surprised if 4% of web users had even heard of Linux.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I would be moderately surprised if 4% of web users had even heard of Linux.

Patently absurd

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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

Probably the biggest drivers are Microsoft (being greedy pigs and making their UX worse) and Valve (promoting gaming on Linux). It should've been the Linux Foundation, IMO, but allocated spend 2% of their budget to linux.

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