I'm gonna baselessly call transgender people a bourgeois scheme so that I can feel more leftist for being a bigot rather than less.
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@nutomic@lemmy.ml this is being misread right? You're opposing the stupid concept that the bourgeoisie are promoting transness (when they are clearly massively funding the hate machine). Right?
Because this is stupid as shit if it's the other way around. It's very clear that any trans support that did occur was simply part of trans falling under the lgbt movement, and that support for lgbt people occurs because pinkwashing is a useful tool of framing the west as "moral" for the purposes of imperialism. This does not make lgbt people (gay or trans) invalid and it is stupid as shit to take that position.
The bourgeoisie's support for lgbt people is as sincere as Israel's support for lgbt palestinians and only someone with eyes blinded by unexamined bigotry chooses not to see that.
@nutomic@lemmy.ml this is being misread right? You're opposing the stupid concept that the bourgeoisie are promoting transness (when they are clearly massively funding the hate machine). Right?
"That's interesting. The ass-cleaning topic is clearly promoted by the bourgeoisie, going as far as stocking toilet paper in grocery stores or installing bidets on toilets. Yet the same bourgeoisie is secretly promoting a lack of awareness about and access to good anal hygiene? Seems rather far fetched to me! This is why I as a good Marxist refuse to clean my ass. *smug smug*"
i roll in pig shit daily
Admin of lemmy.ml, everyone
Though dessalines seems better than the other admins, he put transgender patriots in control of lemmy's /c/transgender recently
Nutomic unfortunately contributes a significant number of commits to Lemmy and they tend to be pretty important bugfixes, core structural changes, and code optimization.
https://github.com/hexbear-collective/lemmy/graphs/contributors
I have personally called him out on the trans issue before but he just doubles down while the rest of the lemmy/lemmygrad community kind of ignores him socially. I don't think he realizes we'd be nice to him like Desslines if he just wasn't an asshole.
I imagine most people here would be chill with Dessalines being a hexbear regular if he wanted to. But I'm not sure what either of them are motivated by since I don't see them around much (could just be alts though).
For a self professes Communist you would think he would remember that first they came for trans people, then they came for the Communists.
what in the actual?? guess he's a transphobe too
P A T H E T I C
on his official lemmy related account too! he could have said anything else to avoid publicly attaching himself to something so reactionary, but clearly this is a deeply held view for him
Isn't nutomic pointing out a contradiction in someone else's transphobic rhetoric here?
Transgender topic is pushed by bourgeois
and yet, at the same time bourgeois is pushing anti-trans topic
sounds far fetched to me.
and then off-handedly remarking that the transphobic narrative is off-topic, am I missing something?
IDK, the lie that transgender people are promoted by the bourgeoisie is a common trans exclusionary vulgar materialist line.
TBH, rainbow imperialism strongly pushes people outside of the West to make this mistake.
Yeah if you base your "analysis" off of relatively surface level things. And even then it's never trans issues specifically.
They're replying to someone who seems to have asked if they could develop a browser add-on that interacted with Lemmy. Maybe to filter transphobic spam, and attributed such content as the work of the bourgeoisie? Which they disagree with because they've observed rainbow imperialism. Looks like this was a 1:1 private message on some kind of web site.
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Yeah that's kinda what it looks like to me, unless i'm missing something.
Nutomic sucks ass but it should be noted that so does Shinigami Eyes. Leftist acounts that are proactivly critical of democrats or anti-zionist lose their green and go neutral constantly. Most noteably recently I noticed that Shaun lost his green on twitter and youtube. Which has to have been because whether because of an actively liberal admin team or just whatever the algortyhm is being susceptible to bad actors, liberals were able to mass report him as "neutral" for being critical of Biden lol.
wtf is the deal with quoting "transphobes"
Just passive sarcasm denying the reality, and what serious comrade would ever ask "why do they need to be "rooted out"?"
Hi, where are these "transphobes" and why do they needed to be "rooted out"?
This makes it look worse, much worse imo
no wonder i have such a bad time on lemmy.ml
Yeah I feel like we need to see the larger conversation to get an accurate idea of what’s going on here.
The "biological men" thing is a transphobic framing.
Turns out the bourgeoisie aren't a monolith
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Sadly, this isn't the first time he dropped a shit take. Years ago, he was opposed to banning the admin of the fash instance wolfballs for soliciting new users in lemmy.ml threads.
There was also that time just recently like 1~2 months ago where he was doing some really sussy and shameful hemming and hawing about what did and did not count as CSAM. You can find that in the modlog.
I dunno, it's just a terrible shame, 'cause I had assumed that Nutomic was an upstanding fellow when I first joined Hexbear, and I was very enthusiastic about his Ibis project. To find out that he not only is an asshole who refers to trans women as "biological men" and who defends pedos and fascists, and that these complaints have lasted for years seemingly without any major repercussions is... Sheesh. Like, maybe this guy should not be in anything even remotely approximating a position of power, you know?
Alas, if only I knew how to code. Even before these revelations I'd been imagining my own SLiki idea as potentially functioning a bit similarly to Ibis.
So that's why pronouns aren't just a core feature in this shitty Reddit clone.
Guy who defends pedos also is a transphobe, surprise surprise.
Seriously, time to get rid of this guy if lemmy.ml is to be taken seriously at all.
Me hearing that the devs of Lemmy are leftists 😁
The "leftist" devs:
(I remember something happening a bit ago involving CSAM, can the devs/admins that aren't Dessalines go a metaphorical five seconds without being reactionary?)
Am I missing something or is the "or allowing biological men to compete at the olympics" part that message the most cringe part? Even if you think thats a good thing why the hell are you framing it like that? Especially when you are throwing this in with rainbow capitalism as a "plot of the bourgeious."
I'm so over these clowns. The fact they've not been banned from all of hexbear is kinda shocking to me.
~~I can generously interpret this as "The bourgeoisie promote the topic in such a way to cause division" a la "transgender boxer" and "oh no, trans people might use the restroom you should be scared", but really it seems like a stretch.~~
Edit: https://hexbear.net/comment/5208429
Nope, they're just a fuckhead. Send 'em to TERF island and cut off all communication
what a loser
Ummm the gubermint does handwaving that is an endorsement why would they let hate foster. Cmon huh. They support black lives matter and all that. So ummm I don't see why gubermint would also support systemic racism. Epic analysis 😎
I like it more here anyways. I might still dip into my .ml account from time to time, but I have a much more enjoyable time here.