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Kamala Harris statement on Trump's promise to end democracy (s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com)

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[+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 212 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 96 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why not both? "Weird" gets politically disengaged people to notice, then follow up with how a Trump or Republican facist presidency would be dangerous.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It also doesn't get as pilloried as Hillary's "deplorables", even if she was right about that.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hilary's pillory would make a good title for a book about the 2016 election.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am so glad Biden stepped down and Harris is actually running the campaign the Dems should have been running since 2016.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think Biden was the best person to run in 2020.

His prior experience with the office + familiarity with world leaders is what allowed him to actually work from day one and also get NATO back together.

Remember that trump didn't hand the power peacefully, was blocking intelligence reports and our relationship with our allies was in the shitter.

Putin started to preparing to invade Ukraine in April 2021 (or at least that's when or intelligence noticed it), putin was certain that Biden won't be able to reunite West on time.

All other 2020 candidates would need some time ramp up as they did not have the same experience.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 18 points 2 years ago

I am talking about Dems as a whole and the campaigns they should have run, not which candidates were running.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Biden was a good guy to have on cleanup duty. I think one of the main reasons why the Obama presidency was such a disappointment is that he had to handle cleanup duty at the same time as he was trying to push things forward.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's a multi-pronged approach here now.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago

The "He’s weird" is the equivalent of "Doesn’t she look tired" in Doctor Who, when the Doctor decides to end a bad politician’s career. That sentence, as it starts spreading, destroys her career.

This is what they aim for, and it’s meant for MAGAs, to crack them open.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 118 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also love that she’s factually calling him out as a criminal.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

I was hoping for 'convicted felon', but I'll take what I can get.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He's just going to call her "lyin'" or "crooked" or something like that, so she might as well call him what he is...a criminal.

It's that kind of tit-for-tat that you wouldn't get from Joe Biden, who was worried about looking polite and respectable. It just wound up making him look weak.

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[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 88 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'll tell you all a secret:

Win this for us all and we can do almost the same thing. In four years we could make voting easier. We could collectively push to end gerrymandering and implement a fair and true foundation for a stronger and better system. If Trump and his cronies truly believe they can take down everything that has been built, I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals, working together towards a more positive future.

Let's pay to deliver our future and not get robbed to repeat the past.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but don't stop at Trump. Get the fuckers out of the House/Senate too. Vote against Trump-lite mayors, , councils, and civil positions. This doesn't mean always vote D, but stop letting insane candidates win via voter apathy, whatever the riding.

Where you can, make a difference yourself. Run for HOA, school board, etc yourselves and get the power-tripping fucktards out.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals

I'll bet we can do it by working together as groups.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No OP, but yes, volunteer and get involved too!

Here's one site to find volunteer opportunities around you (for campaign related opportunities and also things like climate action there)

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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 71 points 2 years ago (13 children)

I'm sure Republicans are all going on about how he's "just joking". Sure, that obviously was a joke but it's not like conservatives don't want exactly this – they always hide behind "it was just a joke maaaannn" when the heinous shit they say causes a negative reaction

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 67 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"it's just a joke man....... unless you're cool with it. In which case yeah we're totally serious"

Kinda like joking about having a threesome with your significant other.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 years ago

Yup, "haha only joking. Unless…?"

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It wasn't a joke, which we know because they doubled down after failing the 2020 electiom coup.

Yes, they hide behind joking when they say heinous shit like mocking the military or the disabled. They also hide behind it when when they are open about wanting a dictatorship.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

Yes this is exactly what I meant. It was said in a manner that they can just claim it was a joke, even when it's clearly not

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It doesn't help that Trump's speeches are full of semi-coherent rambling and tangential sentence fragments, and that his entire style has always been to speak entirely in ridiculous hyperbole. It makes it easier for people to interpret statements in whatever way best fits their point of view, because you just get used to filling in the context and reducing his absurd claims down to a vague generality.

I'm sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying "you won't have to vote" only meant that the next election won't have such high stakes because Trump will fix America's problems and yada yada yada.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“He’s just joking”

Uhhh, Maybe we shouldn’t have a joker as president?? Maybe vagueness is bad???

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's weird that I knew all this but it's way more chilling to have Harris' campaign tell us.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck the republican traitor filth. We must hold the traitors to account.

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Where was this posted? I want to be able to open the blue links! I just searched for it and found nothing. There's nothing in the official Whitehouse.gov Briefing Room page. There's nothing on Twitter from her official account (and shame on you for making me go to that shithole to look!)