How are these industry-leading policies when Fairphone, a much smaller company, is promising 5 android updates and 8 years of security updates? And it's not like Fairphone doesn't have a good track record AFAIK.
Tbf the Fairphone 5 uses a SoC that is specifically chosen for longer support.
[This comment has been deleted by an automated system]
I've got zero expectations, they made POCO F3 and F4 with same SoC but F3 is EOL, and F4 still gets updates.
Considering they neglected it in ideal conditions, how can we believe them to support less convergent set of devices?
Anyway, anyone can tell me why should we care about Android updates except for security? I'm totally bored by Android 14, not even one interesting thing in release notes. Maybe taking sharing menu out of OEM hands and updating it through Play Store, but seeing how they did something like that in Chrome makes it rather intrusive feature.
MIUI is even more boring, from MIUI 11 to 14 on POCO F3 I have noticed no changes in the skin, they added widgets for China-only but these see useful, just nice to look at. I love widgets, but c'mon.
POCO F3 here
Change my mind
(Galnet) MIUI at one point used to be the ROM to install back in the day.
Now, typing from this Mi 11 meme it's a whole different kettle of fish. Security app is what I would call snake oil leaning for towards spyware, then all the other uninstallable apps from MIUI are tracking apps / dupes.
To be honest though being able to uninstall YouTube should be a given but Google won't allow that either, even though it's a "website".
@ladfrombrad @QuazarOmega Root + trackercontrol + adaway does wonders
I got rid of the ads already systemwide with NextDNS, though I never had them in system apps (maybe a regional thing?). About root, I prefer to stay away from it for the security implications, but if I had a simple button to install DivestOS on this phone I would click it immediately
Not only security implications, it's also the time sink and apps crying about Safetynet being unable to be passed I find the Pihole + browser extensions / Tampermonkey etc somewhat of a sweet compromise.
I keep getting nagged by someone to try either AdGuard or NextDNS on my Pi but also.....lazy/busy at work :(
I think that's a fine setup!
Also, isn't Pihole the nerdy way to do it? I thought NextDNS was the lazy route XD
Yes, so much yes!
I never dabbled in ROM installation, but I really felt the bad things going on with the MIUI once I tried it, it's such a shame because the hardware is so good for the price and it's funny that it wouldn't have cost them more to put a stock Android, that would have most likely worked better, but then they wouldn't have got their hands on that sweet sweet data...
PoCo F3 here too, yup, always have been. The worst is modem crashing when changing bands/tower.
Never had that thankfully, sounds extremely bad! But it's got its fair share of other annoying bugs
Why do you think the F3 is EOL? It's still receiving updates. Most likely it won't be updated to Android 14, but it probably will get MIUI 15.
On xiaomi blog they mentioned it will not get MIUI 15.
Xiaomi's update rationale and schedule is all over the place. Sometimes a phone that doesn't get updated for over a year gets an update, while some get quarterly updates for 2 years, some 3, and some 1.5 years before getting 6 months of silence then one final half assed update. XD
This is just for one device… misleading title
Would only buy a Xiaomi as a daily driver if MIUI Global isn't actually just bloatware and adware.
redmi note 9 pro user here. Now on LOS. The default OS is full of telemetry. Even the calculator wants you to agree to personal data being used. Would avoid unless you only want the hardware and the model you want has active community rom support.
Also the Bootloader unlocking process is a PITA. You need a xiaomi account logged in to the phone for it for 2 weeks, then they may allow unlocking the BL but only through their unlocker app that frankly sucks. You may have to sit through the wait period twice if something goes wrong. Ask me how I know.
To addon, it straight up refuses to work on AMD PCs, so I had to painstakingly borrow an Intel machine to completely free my Poco F1 from the shackles of Xiaomi.
I dunno seems fine on my redmi tablet.
I had a miui phone and they only update their own apps and the phone with ads or unwanted apps. They only gave one Android update after a year and no monthly security updates. Plus their updates break things or make phone slower. They say a lot of things but don't follow through.
Painfully true, MIUI is shit and they're never gonna fix it, I wish I changed ROM but I'm too lazy and I've never done it before
They need to stop making so many variations of the same phone and launching it in same series and then in their spinoff brands.
Good. If they bring this policy to the rest of the lineup. It will put pressure on other OEMs to provide similar support.
but do we actually want 4 years of MIUI?
So they will do like in the past? Before (until around mi6) they supported phones for years, now they EOL them a week after the launch the new toy the following week
But still miui-not-so-stable is 3-4 months behind mainstream android updates, unless you are in their miui beta progam.
The new home of /r/Android on Lemmy and the Fediverse!
Android news, reviews, tips, and discussions about rooting, tutorials, and apps.
🔗Universal Link: !android@lemdro.id
💡Content Philosophy:
Content which benefits the community (news, rumours, and discussions) is generally allowed and is valued over content which benefits only the individual (technical questions, help buying/selling, rants, self-promotion, etc.) which will be removed if it's in violation of the rules.
Support, technical, or app related questions belong in: !askandroid@lemdro.id
For fresh communities, lemmy apps, and instance updates: !lemdroid@lemdro.id
📰Our communities below
Stay on topic: All posts should be related to the Android OS or ecosystem.
No support questions, recommendation requests, rants, or bug reports: Posts must benefit the community rather than the individual. Please post to !askandroid@lemdro.id.
Describe images/videos, no memes: Please include a text description when sharing images or videos. Post memes to !androidmemes@lemdro.id.
No self-promotion spam: Active community members can post their apps if they answer any questions in the comments. Please do not post links to your own website, YouTube, blog content, or communities.
No reposts or rehosted content: Share only the original source of an article, unless it's not available in English or requires logging in (like Twitter). Avoid reposting the same topic from other sources.
No editorializing titles: You can add the author or website's name if helpful, but keep article titles unchanged.
No piracy or unverified APKs: Do not share links or direct people to pirated content or unverified APKs, which may contain malicious code.
No unauthorized polls, bots, or giveaways: Do not create polls, use bots, or organize giveaways without first contacting mods for approval.
No offensive or low-effort content: Don't post offensive or unhelpful content. Keep it civil and friendly!
No affiliate links: Posting affiliate links is not allowed.
Our Communities
Lemmy App List
Chat and More