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I'm feeling so uneasy with everything I've been seeing. I keep thinking about what we will be this time next year, and if shit hits the fan, what is your plan? I'm queer and was politically active in 2020, so I would potentially be considered a political enemy.

The only blueprint I can think of is what you do in an active shooter situation; Flee, Hide, Fight.

I know there's that romantic notion of "don't be a coward, get out and protest", but I remember the brutality of the 2020 protests firsthand, and even then I thought "thank god I'm going toe to toe with the CPD and not the CCP". Next time is going to be different. The president now has authority to send drone strikes. Protests and riots don't stand a chance agains missiles and live rounds.

Flee- I have an Uncle in Montreal who my family could potentially use as a way to at least temporarily escape the chaos. The hope I'd have is that Canada and other countries would accept American refugees, however that's not a guarantee.

Hide- If borders are closed, lay low and move away from major cities if possible. If civil war breaks out, try to get away from the violence even if you think your side will win. Todays losers may be tomorrows victors.

Fight- If cellular data/ social media algorithms can keep track of you, and surveillance can make sure there's no movement, this would be the last resort of desperation. I guess if possible try to either find a group for safety in numbers, or conversely go guerrilla as groups of resistance would make easy targets.

Sorry my mind is running and I'm getting scared.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago (14 children)
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[–] SonicDeathTaco@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You should be scared but try not to feel hopeless that won't help anyone. I'm honestly shocked at how little people have been freaking out. Especially the news media, I don't see how a free press survives a second Trump administration. That's what really concerns me the seeming apathy.

I'm hoping that come November the election will go well, and we won't have to worry about it as much. (As well as possible given the choices)

My family and I are going to be overseas when the transition happens and if we might not return depending on what happens. We're going to be visiting family in a country where my spouse qualifies for citizenship ship so I feek like that's in our favor.

If shit goes south and it was just me, I would probably stay but I've got kids to worry about and I won't feel bad for a second about keeping them safe.

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
  1. have your passport and any other docs in order now, if you're making all these contingencies.

  2. make more objective and less speculative assessments.

  3. find ways to enjoy yourself family and friends now. And build relationships and support systems with people you know and people in your community. Lines of communication and a habit of community work will help alleviate your doomy outlook for now, and help you build a network when it's time to respond to a bad situation, if one arises.

Stay constructive. Everyone has a plan til they get punched in the mouth, so if you aren't trained in combat or conflict theory, you should just keep assessing your current situation, and if you want to get out, if you truly believe Montreal is a more comfortable place for you, then go ahead now, why wait, it sounds very nice. Though I would appreciate it if you're here to vote to help our chances of correcting the illegitimate court system.

Anyway always ask yourself, "what is the best possible thing I can do right now?".

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm Canadian. I plan to steal a dump truck, drive it to the middle of the bridge to the US that's 15 km from my house, turn it sideways, and disable it. Then, when they remove it I'll do it again.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'll keep on keeping on.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 8 points 1 year ago

Continue not living in the US. I got out in 2015. It does mean, however, that unless one of my parents is in serious trouble, I'm not setting foot in that country for the duration.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I did not need to change my plans when he was president a first time, why would I this time?

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I'm lucky enough to have some security, so my plan is lay low and where I can play safehouse for the folks that need it, I'm not a fighter, but I have what I need and a little more, and I can use that to help whoever needs it.

I've got ideas for what the post crisis should look like, so probably try to find ways to network with the folks who are likely to be making that transition once this inevitably burns itself out.

Meantime, vote. Vote like your life depends on it because the odds are that you know someone who's life does.

Time is our shield, and even if it's only another four years, it's four more years the windbag has to survive into his 80s to take another crack at it, by which time the crop of Dem governors are going to be making enough noise to be suitable replacements for Biden, and if he drops dead in that time, it is very likely the movement will be demoralized the same way JFK and RFK dying took the wind out of the Democrat's sails.

The Redcaps are a cult, when the prophet of a cult dies without an already established right hand who can take over and reconsolidate the movement, the whole thing collapses under its own weight and the shock and grief of its members.

They aren't gonna wake up to how wrong they've been, but they are gonna spiral hard and be unable to keep up the energy.

[–] weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Planning on leaving the country if I can. Preferably somewhere overseas.

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[–] PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm trying to think what's going through the heads of maga nazis right now. Is it "yay, we're about to enjoy years of prosperity when we're no longer competing with liberals and nerodigervents for employment"? Is it "yay, they're going to get rid of all the people we hate and that's all we care about"? Or is it "fuck me everything is still going to suck ass because of some other reason".

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

For a long time now my plan has been to buy land way out in the boonies where no one can find me and set up a bunch of solar energy panels to power basic electronics and satellite internet while I grow potatoes and raise chickens.

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