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[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 3 days ago

I'm sorry if this comes across as cynical to everyone but I'm worried about the ratchet effect. Even if we vote in Biden and he doesn't have a majority in both the House and Senate, no lasting changes to government can be made. Even if we get a slim majority in both chambers there's no telling if we're gonna have another Sinema, Manchin, or Fetterman go and betray the party during a critical vote. It feels like there are so many Democrats who are willing to get in bed with corporate and fascist interests and act as sleeper agents.

How are we supposed to prevent them from sabotaging important government reforms? Republicans seem to have all the time in the world to implement their strategies while Democratic voters struggle every election cycle just to keep things from getting worse. Yes I get we need to act more locally but I'm personally located in a deep blue part of the country so my impact is negligible. Other than donating to candidates that I hope won't betray our interests, I see little in regards to what can be done on my end.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 43 points 2 days ago

I'm not voting for Biden to get major changes. I'm voting for him to make sure I can keep voting in the future.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago

Voting for Biden gives me 4 more years to get the fuck out.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Problem is this already was not enough in 2020 and since. Despite all the evidence of Trumps presidency and then fucking January 6, Dems decided to just get back to business as usual and just ignore the fundamental problems in American society that became apparent with Trump.

And Biden is not in shape to deal with any of this, while the DNC seems hellbent on pretending there is no serious problem.

We need a different younger candidate and voting will not be enough. We need local action, in the communities, local governance, protests..

[-] AquaticHelicopter@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It might not be enough. But all of those things you listed take a lot of time and enough people to care about it to get out and do things.

It's definitely not good enough, but it's like if you have a giant puncture wound on you leg and no one else is there to help you. You could stuff it with cloth you tore from your shirt or make a makeshift tourniquet and try your best to not bleed out until better help arrives. OR just be like fuck I'm not cut out to deal with this. I'll just lay here and do nothing.

We do need all of those things! But we don't have them right now so we just have to try and stop the bleeding until we do.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Even if we get a slim majority in both chambers there’s no telling if we’re gonna have another Sinema, Manchin, or Fetterman go and betray the party during a critical vote.

That's why we need more than a slim majority. Seems pretty obvious.

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[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 313 points 4 days ago

If you live in Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, or Florida (really any of the fifty states, but these are the most critical), AND you don't want to see Donald Trump elected for a second term, you must vote for Joe Biden in November. Yes Biden is a doddering old man who is experiencing rapid cognitive decline, and yes it is totally unacceptable that these are our choices, but disengaging does not solve the problem, it only makes it worse.

Believe me, I completely understand the inclination to just say to hell with it and check out, but we can't do that. I have been as guilty of it as anyone but I now fully recognize it was a mistake. But it's not too late to make it right. Voting is not only a right, it is a responsibility. If we, the people, want to rule, we must be vigilant and responsible.

Right now, our priority is damage control and harm reduction. I know, it has been that way for far too long, and that is extremely frustrating, but it is nonetheless the reality of the situation. We must vote for Biden this year, and then we MUST stay engaged so that we can work toward nominating the best possible candidate in 2028. We must stay informed and vote, diligently, in every state, local, and primary election.

[-] whocares314@lemmy.world 94 points 4 days ago

It’s more than just damage control. Everything you said should be enough to get people to vote, but the sad reality is reducing it to that may not be enough. If you’re reading this and considering whether or not to vote, OP is 100% correct. You need to do it. Make no excuse, get it done. But try to feel good about it too. You’re not just voting for one person, you’re voting for an entire administration, and Biden has proven himself in that regard. Under a Biden administration you’re going to have competent people working at all levels of the federal government, which is a big deal. Biden’s administration has done a lot of good as well that is easy to gloss over in favor of focusing on his negative attributes:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

You also need to be at the polls to vote for your down-ballot candidates. Do not underestimate the importance or closeness of those races.

No candidate is ever going to be perfect for you. Personally I wish we were finishing the 8th year of a Bernie Sanders presidency. But that doesn’t mean that because I didn’t get it perfectly the way I want it I’m going to take my ball and just go home. I hate the democrat strategy right now, but please don’t let yourself be told that Biden has been a bad president. He’s done some things you can be happy about and some things you can wish were different. If you want to see those differences, the best way you can do that is to be politically active and work for that change. Not participating means you forfeit that right.

[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

Decisions are made by those who show up; it really just comes down to that.

And if the other side is better at getting people to show the fuck up…. You need to make an effort to do the same. Even if it is a far from ideal choice.

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[-] MudSkipperKisser@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I so want nothing to do with this election, I feel so defeated and disgusted by all of it BUT I keep reminding myself that if I don’t vote then I essentially voted for whoever ends up winning. And that could easily be Trump. And in my view he’s not just an awful candidate, he’s an existential threat eat to democracy. So I will vote. But damn, literally almost anyone else could beat Trump, why this is our choice is so insane.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago

doddering old man who is experiencing rapid cognitive decline

Only in the media. Also, according to the media, the orange 34 count felon is completely fine, A-okay, in fact.
Get a grip America. Biden's policies are popular with Democrats AND Republicans

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 26 points 4 days ago

If you want to be more strategic, if you can convince right wingers to not vote that also can make a difference. Feed your red-hat uncle's ideas about how voting is rigged so he shouldn't bother. Tell your maga neighbor you'll drive him to the polls and then don't.

This is an existential crisis. Don't think the right wing won't do anything they can to win.

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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 95 points 3 days ago

It's been like 15 years of me saying at first, parallels with Idiocracy, but the last 10 or so: "you know how the beginning of every dystopian end times film begins with the news montage about natural disasters, rising populism, income inequality, and whatnot? Have you read any headlines?"

[-] suodrazah@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

Idiocracy is a better timeline, the president tried to put the smartest person in charge. Good luck getting that in our reality.

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[-] VoilaChihuahua@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

YES THIS! I've been saying over and over since 2016 - I read almost exclusively dystopic sci-fi and many books have a point where the reader thinks "run this is getting too bad it is the time to go". I'm thinking specifically when June has no money in her bank account (yes it's a tinge too late even then). So I've been trying to figure out when that point in our story will be and last year decided it is id Trump is elected again. We are a lost country and evil has won at that point.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 37 points 3 days ago

Similar feelings when you read books set in 1930s Europe.

"I want to leave, but Grandmere would never survive such a long voyage."

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[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

I've been using the term "pre-dystopia" to describe life right now.

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[-] cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

I haven't seen Handmaidens tale. Please relate the story to Star wars or Harry Potter, maybe even the hunger games, and then I'll understand better.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago

Remember how in Harry Potter Voldemort returns at the end of year 4, but instead of dealing with it, Fudge and his crownies decide to claim Dumbledore and Harry are lying or delusional? And then they proceed to attack them, while ignoring the things happening like people disappearing and stuff, that are attributed to Voldemort by Dumbledore? For like an entire year until Fudge literally sees Voldemort in the ministry?

We are in this period.

[-] cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

Now explain it to me via anime

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

If you live in one of the 18 states that allow everyone to mail in their ballot, sign up for mail in ballots. I get mine a month before it has to be postmarked, giving me plenty of time to choose who I'm voting for.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-18-states-with-all-mail-elections

If you live in one of the 32 other states, go visit your state legislature and get mail in voting on the ballot.

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