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[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"Bikes are unsafe" says Mike of the Ford company, known for its "ChildCrusher (tm)" trucks.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Look.

Just because pedestrian deaths went up 70% between 2010 and 2021, much of which is attributed to light trucks, and just because trucks have gotten significantly larger and more geared towards NOT doing the things they were designed for, that doesn't mean Mike here is a clueless jackass who is also complicit in making life more unsafe for pedestrian-wait

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

I'd rather my kid cruise around on an e-bike than kill someone in it's Maibatsu Monstrosity.

[–] Ludi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

How many kids does it get per gallon?

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think there's some merit to this, but:

-Saying teens should just ride regular bikes in a country that, for the most part, has shit cycling infrastructure and a car-centric culture that is hostile towards sharing the road with cyclists is a non-starter, unless you are also advocating for changing that.

-If you want to whine about how dangerous it is for teens to ride e-bikes that can go over 20mph then surely you would have a problem with the states that allow teens to drive vehicles that can go much faster than that and cause way more damage to those involved in an accident with them.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

modified to go more than 20 mph

Pretty sure e-scooters can do that without modification already

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Regular bikes are good.

E-bikes are also good but not as much as mountain or road bikes.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

auto execs get the wall

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I commute in my child crusher™ gigatruck that somehow has a worse mpg than if I were to chug diesel and walk the same distance by foot

yeonmi-park

ebikes are 'gay' or something idk

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

cars, dead pedestrians, unwalkable cities and communities, >42,000 deaths/year from car accidents in the US: freedom

threats to car manufacturers' net worth: danger

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, then change design and zoning to make bycicle transportation feasible for more people.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

"we can't because biking isn't currently feasible for enough people." –local politicians

rinse, lather, repeat.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh man, when I was growing up, kids used to ride all sorts of weird things, like fucking gassed up go-karts. An e-bike would have been a relief.

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[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

TIL that bicycles can't go faster than 20mph.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The only reason I ended up in the hospital from an ebike accident is because a fucking car hit me lol

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[–] MerryChristmas@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

The sort of person this rhetoric appeals to doesn't even believe teens should be outside unsupervised in the first place. Electric bikes just encourage them to explore and learn about dangerous ideas like community.

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

How many children were killed by collisions with Ford vehicles last year?

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Car accidents are famously a negligible cause of death amongst teenagers

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Speaking as a curmudgeon, “Today’s Teens” will inevitably find a way to use any new technology for something stupid and dangerous, judging an invention by its misuse is the definition of bad faith.

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