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I wanna agree, especially with how performative the fist pump is, but at the same time, someone did die, right? That's the part that makes me lean towards this as a real assassination attempt. But maybe it was an accepted cost of doing this?
I dunno, at this point I think I just need to take a break from news communities and wait for real investigations, I'm losing my mind with the speculations
Fascists aren't known for being squeamish about "acceptable losses"
Do you really think banon, stone, or trump care if other people have to die if it sells their plan?
Crisis actor duh!
Isn't that what these cunts said about Sandy Hook?
While I may sound morbid - are there any details on those important that were hit? I've seen no photos, names, ideas or anything - which is very surprising considering it was live and the amount of cameras around.
Imagine if the shooter was actually a Republican or cop or something who didn’t like Trump and the RNC won’t let his identity out.
Or if it’s the dad of some teen Trump raped.
Probably it’s still just the Sercret Service wanting to track down everyone even tangentially involved and detain and question them all before the guy’s name is out there.
Name of shooter has been released- no names on bystanders
Leaning toward false flag as well. It feels very scripted. I'd wager the dying bit wasn't part of the gunman's agreement.
Step 1: Nobody talks about Trump, everybody is busy discussing how old Biden is. All attention with the dems
Step 2: Stage an assassination attempt with some blood but also good photos with a fist pump
Step 3: Kill the shooter so they don't talk
Step 4: Profit and everyone talks about Trump now
Such a sad day. Richard Simmons died 😭😭
I was actually thinking of the person in the crowd but yeah, gunman too. At the same time, if it were a setup, "killing" the gun man would be the move since there would be no one to investigate, right? But an innocent bystander killed?
I mean, no one in a crowd supporting a domestic threat to our constitution is an innocent bystander; but ignoring that, killing off one of his own peons to get the media stirred up in an advantageous way is 100% in character for Trump. He doesn't give a fuck about any one member of his cult.
“I could shoot a person in broad daylight and never get arrested.”
I can’t say if it was or wasn’t false flag. What I can and will say, is if it wasn’t a false flag, the. The fist pump was a stupid and incredibly disrespectful thing to do.
Those secret service agents are shielding his life with theirs once they decide to move, you move and get in the truck and get the fuck out so everyone else can do their job or get to safety.
If I were one of them I’d have punched his gut and put him in a come along. (The punch is to double him over so he’s not making himself a target… also because I just don’t like him. Details.)
yeah. I'm not talking about anything political. Only the function of a body guard protecting an idiot. (I'm fully liscensed as a protective agent... aka body guard. edit: to clarify, I work as management now,) At that moment, their job was to remove the former president from the area... prefferably without him getting shot again.
So when he tries to stand up and make himself a target... their job is to push him down, and get him to the truck. To do that, I'd have socked him in the gut. In large part because I would be doing my job- and possibly taking a bullet from you. Every second he's standing around being a dipshit is another potential opportunity.
His fist pump was a blatant disrespect to those agents. putting their lives in further danger. To my eyes, it makes him look like a weak, shitty leader who cares more about fucking appearances than the lives of the people sworn to protect him- to literally take a bullet for him. So yeah. if I were in their place, I'd punch him, and put him in a come along hold and drag his fat ass to the truck. a punch is far less dangerous than another bullet.
As for the oaths of office... yeah... that's a giant fucking can of worms and you should probably be extremely careful how you phrase things. Besides which I am not, nor have ever been, employed by the government, or otherwise in a position to take such an oath. so there's nothing there for me to "take seriously".
Everyone discussing this possibility keeps focusing on the person dying, but why does anyone think these people give a shit?
In fact, a real death of a normal Trump supporter not only adds more fuel to the fire, but it would add an extra layer of obscurity for the people ultimately responsible. Because people like you will say it can't be real.
Again, I am not saying this is what happened.
For sure. At this point, real or false flag are both plausible. Folks like Trump wouldn't bat an eye at killing off a couple supporters if he could spin it for a positive gain.
I'm mostly just waiting on info on the gunman to draw a conclusion. Is he the kind of person who'd want Trump dead, or the kind of person who'd agree to shoot at the crowd behind Trump for a fat paycheck?
If the former, it's too bad he missed.
Shooter died on a rooftop and one bystander. No reports on who they were yet though.
The people in the crowd as collateral damage is the last thing I'd use as evidence that this isn't fake. In fact, if this were a conspiracy (probably isn't), I'd 100% expect these people to prefer someone died so as to stay better hidden.