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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A country that truly believes in freedom and democracy shouldn't require you to take a loyalty oath every day.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This whole thing is such a mind fuck and crazy process for people outside merica. I really thought it was a joke on movies, but realising that they are really all brainwashed since children like this makes a lot more sense when you consider everything.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And we’ve had multiple lawsuits decide exactly that - you do not have to do it.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

With this court, all bets are off though.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Conservatives here in the UK wanted to enforce something similar, but in the form of a patriotic song. Everybody just laughed. That would never fly here!

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it's spreading. Denmark is pushing laws to restrict using other flags. It might be a dog whistle for anti-palestine but still. Rubs me the wrong way.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how I feel about my state adopting laws saying Non-Citizens can't vote. They already can't, the only thing the law is accomplishing is a dog whistle.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It's almost like if you have to keep telling yourself that you live in a free country, you probably don't.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In most schools, it's not. But they don't advertise that.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] wanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the First Amendment protects students from being compelled to salute the American flag or say the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools.

They can't require participation.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It says I live in a state that requires it with no exceptions and that's simply not true. In HS a lot of students didn't participate.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's been made clear in court that students can't be forced to make the pledge against their will.