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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 84 points 5 days ago

It's easy to forget that there's a time, a little over a decade ago, when the Supreme Court Justices were considered above reproach. It was the last vestige of trusted governance in the country. It was considered the one arena untouched by political trends and activism, where citizens could face off against corruption and expect true justice. Decisions were made based not in the shifting winds of the day, but in consideration of the next century or the nations needs.

We have lost something greater than just a political alignment. We have lost trust in the entire State.

We have lost something greater than just a political alignment. We have lost trust in the entire State.

Yep.

I lost my trust 5 years ago during Trump. Biden was just slowly rebuilding that trust. But it's still gone.

[-] caffinatedone@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

Ahem, Bush v Gore... bit longer than a decade. They're certainly more shameless now that they have a larger margin, but republican justices have been pushing an agenda for awhile.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

At the time, it wasn't this widely regarded as a power grab by conservative politicians in the Supreme Court. Not saying it wasn't, but it was not seen as such. It was nowhere near as brazen as what we're seeing today. Confidence was still quite high at the time or at least it returned quickly.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

A bad decision like Bush v Gore or Citizens United was seen as an anomoly. While there were people who saw these as the political flexing they were, the general sentiment of the public was, "well, it must have been a difficult and complex decision. I'm sure they understand the legal impact and made the best decision that they could for the future of the country."

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

LOL no. Those decisions were utter bullshit.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Of course they were, in retrospect. But at the time, they were considered flukes.

[-] halowpeano@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

No they weren't... They were derided as conservative power grabs then as now. Even then they talked about Roberts as an activist conservative, as the "decider" vote in a 5v4 court, who played politics to maintain the appearance of neutrality on unimportant, to them, decisions so they could strike when it mattered.

Hell, even then mass media referred to "conservative" and "liberal" justices, which clearly shows judges were not neutral.

[-] bashbeerbash@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

This is the bottom line plan. The end of the nation state of law and the beginning of corporate nationhood. Just like democracies replaced monarchies, the supreme clergy is now ushering the new age of corporate states. Corporate nationhood is modern monarchy, which goes hand in hand with the Christian Caliphate they are also building.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

The fun part is it’s 10 years ago for you. But for others it’s been their entire existence on earth.

[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

No it wasn't, are you kidding me. It was just that their corruption was obfuscated by difficult to understand legalize. But no even laymen can tell they're making things up.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 8 points 5 days ago

You have not been listening to conservatives, then. I grew up on a steady diet of Rush Limbaugh and later Fox News. "Activist liberal judges" has been a decades-long refrain on the right.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It's true, and probably some of the moralizing that justifies the current situation in the eyes of the right wing. They see it as "taking back" the court and doing the same thing that "left" was already doing.

The American far right has always had an outsized voice among conservatives, going all the way back to Father Coughlin, who was sympathetic to Hitler and Mussolini. Even mainstream conservatives tended to consider the supreme court more or less immune to political manipulation, with decisions like Roe v Wade to be the exception.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago

It's entirely possible I'm only familiar with the far right, and not so much the average mainstream conservative. Which is a wild thing to think about my life, but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

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