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Biden has pushed funding and weapons to the Israeli military despite clear evidence they will be used for the genocide of Palestinians. So yes he is responsible.
This is an oddly slow genocide.
Is there a minimum "rate" for a genocide, then?
Not really. The Great Famine that the British forced on Ireland took 7 years. The Holodomor took multiple years. Even The Holocaust went on for years and that was industrialized genocide and not a deliberate famine. Not all genocides are quick.
Oh ok, so when third parties were trying to negotiate the ends to the Holodomor, Holocaust, and potato famine were those people trying to end those guilty of genocide?
The Irish famously didn't hold a grudge against the English
We’re probably never going to be able to see eye-to-eye on this since you clearly see the war as the Jewish people vs. the Palestinian people. Meanwhile, I see it is as two groups of right wing fanatics fighting each other while civilians are caught in the crossfire, at best. But to me, it looks a lot more like they’re deliberately being starved, slaughtered, and/or held hostage.
Maybe someone else on here has the time to debate a sea lion if you want to post more but it’s Taco Tuesday and I have important taco-related business to attend to.
I see the conflict as Hamas wanting to kill as many Jewish people as possible, since Hamas has said so, multiple times.
Hamas should surrender.
"Hamas should surrender"
And I guess until they do, Israel will continue to kill children? I mean, if the baddies are hiding behind children you are fully allowed to bomb them into a red mist. Just say they were hamas and you are good to shoot and bomb them. It's only just because, you know, hamas!
Israel has lost all morality and has become which they suffered so much under.
Oh so just because Hamas began hiding behind civilians after 10/7 they should get away with what they did on 10/7.
You are implying, or outright saying it, that it is OK to bomb children. You support that because, what else can Israel do? Right? How about: don't bomb your way through children
Discussing the morality of hiding behind children is another one all together. I (almost) cannot believe you hold this opinion. Turning 5 year olds into a red mist of blood because...reasons. You want it justified, you want Israel to be able to kill little children.
No need to reply, you are a despicable person holding these opinions.
I don't want anyone to die.
I also want Hamas to be held accountable.
I also - now, try to follow along here - don't personally command the Israeli army.
This might shock you but I'm not pointing at things telling them where to shoot or bomb.
This is going to also be a pretty big shock to you, but, bear with me.
If Hamas surrenders right now then this conflict ends.
If Hamas didn't attack on 10/7 then this conflict wouldn't be ongoing.
Once this conflict is over there will be millions of Palestinians living in and around the region.
Oh also one other thing - you're fine with mass murder and carnage, as long as it's against Israelis. That's what you're saying when you don't say Hamas should surrender.
You are so, so wrong here. These children are not hamas, yet you equate them nonetheless. Notice how I did not take a side other then the children's side. And yet, you argue.
This tells me all I need to know, I have seen your stance already. Not because I want to see something, it's your arguing the matter that tells all I need to know.
"Oh also one other thing - you’re fine with mass murder and carnage, as long as it’s against Israelis. That’s what you’re saying when you don’t say Hamas should surrender." And there it is, took you long enough. None said any such thing, you are making this up and you know it. Next up: calling me an anti-semite...
All I did was argue to not kill children and you argued and keep arguing it is an option, a valid option at that. See, if only hamas surrenders right now then all will be fine. This is a lie, a way to justify the killing of children. Well, you argue this point while you know the little children have no say in this at all. So instead of making the correct moral decision to not kill children, Israel chooses to do so anyway, knowing fully well that the kids have no say in the matter.
You keep being despicable and it just gets worse with each post.
It's OK to hold Israel to account for killing innocent people, it is OK to ask Israel to stop bombing little kids. You will not loose anything of value of you are opposed on these stances. Be good, take the moral path. This is a softball position to hold and yet...you fail at it.
Does Hamas want the killing to stop?
Does it matter, at all?
See, you still want to couple hamas and the allowance to kill children. I purposefully decoupled them because I know what will happen, bizarre discussions where "he said she said" will be abound.
No, there is no story or excuse to kill children. It is that simple. I am at a loss that this is not understood or agreed upon.
Does Hamas want the violence to stop?
Are the children hamas? Do they have a say in this?
Insane that you keep pushing the hamas narative where these kids have no blame or influence over them being bombed. Yet you keep equating the existence or actions of of hamas with it being OK to kill little kids.
Oh so if Hamas doesn't want kids to be bombed why didn't Hamas ever build bomb shelters?
Wow, are you really this thick or are you putting on a show?
Read carefully, you have been told this before but it doesn't register it seems:
hamas is irrelevant to the position of israel killing kids.
Israel killing kids is solely and purely the responsibility of Israel the moment they pull the trigger or drop bombs on them.
Why is it so so so difficult for you to understand this simple statement: you do not bomb your way through kids to get at your target.
You know, this insistent clowning around this morally simple topic of you is starting to make me think you are a troll Denying reality and relishing in the pain and hurt of others. Little kids in this case seems to be your...niche? Or is it a fetish? Either way, something is really wrong with you.
FYI, I will now block you as I have no interest debating or discussing with people who find justice and reason in infanticide.
Should be clear to anyone paying even moderate attention but here you go.
Couple more since you must be living under a rock.
Wait until you hear how long Manifest Destiny took
Does Hamas want the violence to end?
Why didn't the Sioux just run away??!!!!
Checkmate, libruls