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[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 33 points 4 months ago

Fuck, I really hate to agree with Elon on anything, but that is a ridiculous argument. LeCun must also really believe that trees only fall in the woods when someone is around to see it happen.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Science is strictly a social activity. You can’t have a social activity without the social component.

Again, fact-finding is not the same as science.

[-] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 4 months ago

Yeah, they're both pretty wildly off base. Publishing papers that are vetted and used as a foundation for other work is science. Also, sorry, but developing advancements behind closed doors is still science. Oppenheimer's secret research for the government is pretty fucking foundational. Thomas Edison wasn't interested in sharing his ideas, but rather in selling them. Everyone remembers him.

This argument reads like two people having an ego trip past each other.

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

You were correct in the first, but the things you're describing are product research and development.

All super important, but not exactly what I call science as a socially beneficial activity humans do specifically to learn the truths of the universe.

[-] OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Science is just the process of testing things in the world in a reproducible way.

LeCun’s argument is good career advice (you only get credit for what others know you did), but it’s not factual correct.

[-] x0x7@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Also how transparently published and reproduced was Pfizer's vaccine trials, considering a judge had to force the contents released, yet it was science right away. You can't have cake and eat too.

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