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They wanted to keep aristocracy, they just wanted it to be rich men, but not to strictly have a "king."
They wanted their cake and to eat it, too.
They're not good people for wanting to take power from the king so they could have it for themselves and keep it from everyone else.
Women's suffrage and civil rights for minorities were hard fought for in a system that didn't and still doesn't want them to have those rights. These things were literally fought for not at the ballot box, but in the fucking streets (black liberation literally took a fucking civil war). Tell me how that jives with "no kings."
I'm sick as living fuck of these power hungry dickweeds being presented as "good" because "they wanted no kings," no they just wanted an equally convoluted system that amounts to the same fucking thing, but just for the chosen in-group, because the chosen in-group wrote the fucking founding documents. One king or two hundred kings makes no difference, if the system treats power differently, (and it always has) the system is broken to begin with and treats those with power as though power alone deserves deference. Sounds like the same shit to me, just distributed over a slightly larger group of people.
In other words "That's just having a King with extra steps."
That's why they called it a "more perfect" union. They knew it was flawed which is why they gave us the ability to improve the system.
The fact that we haven't isn't on them it's on us.
Yeah I don't think being unable to fight against a system designed to be anti-democratic (like the Senate and the Electoral College, both anti-democratic institutions) is on us, buddy. But you do you and keep making excuses for violent, misogynistic, aristocracy-preserving, rapist dead men.
There is a direct line from them to Trump, if you can't see it you're naive or don't want to see it.
We'd literally still be under a king without them. You should see a doctor about that myopia.
Unable or unwilling?
I've voted Democrat straight ticket for 25 fucking years. What has it gotten me, chucklefuck?
Those anti-democratic institutions still exist and we literally have conservative states just choosing to ignore Federal law now. But what do I know, I guess I'm not voting hard enough.
Oh goodie, you did the bare minimum and voted.
Have you involved yourself in actually improving the process?
Tell me please how I am supposed to be able to improve the process when I can't make a dent in national politics? Once again, why is it our fault when the fucking system was designed that you can only get shit done with supermajorities, and that almost never happens?
I've done phone banking, I've been involved, and what I've seen is an uphill battle every step of the way and I'm not sure how an endless uphill battle is supposed to be viewed as "democracy."
Maybe, just maybe, our democracy was designed to be dogshit from the get-go.
You're not all wrong, but if your takeaway is to not even vote, you're a suicidal fool.
If you took that as me saying I'm not going to vote, that says way more about your assumptions of people in my position than it does about me.
I never once said I wasn't going to vote (I literally just mentioned I have voted straight Democratic ticket for 25 years). I'm just pointing out that voting and "being involved" doesn't defeat a system that is designed anti-democratically to begin with. Things like the Senate, the EC, first-past-the-post-voting, and so on literally make it an uphill battle.
Once again, I never once said anything about not voting, those are words you chose to put in my mouth. Think about that for a bit, Mr. Projection.
Well, doing nothing but whining and attacking online and being a staunch defeatist is definitely doing a lot.
The electoral college system was actually designed to PREVENT people like Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump from getting elected. But it failed spectacularly and instead was the cause of this neofascist getting elected.