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[-] Rookwood@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago

Hamas did not bomb an embassy on foreign soil. Hamas has not been committing war crimes for the last 6 months.

[-] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago
[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Israel did bomb an embassy on foreign soil. Israel has been committing war crimes for the last 6 months.

[-] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I agree.

I'm confused with the statement that Hamas has not been committing war crimes though: clarification about the last 6 months seems to be added for manipulative reasons.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hamas has been launching missiles at apartments in Israel, for years.

[-] Nutteman@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago

Okay, well Israel glassed half the strip and killed 33,000 people. They went past self defense or even basic revenge about 32,000 people ago. Any other half-assed attempt to justify a genocide?

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Biden has been on Netanyahu's ass since the beginning but Israel keeps digging the hole deeper. Israel will discover, too late, that they doomed themselves - Biden tried and tried to tell them. Netanyahu, Putin and Trump are all cut from the same cloth. They are all losers waiting for the curtain to close on them.

[-] Nutteman@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Biden kisses Bibi's ass you mean. Biden could have stopped this at any time by withholding weapons and money.

[-] cybersin@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

Do you think the IDF wasn't murdering Palestinians before Oct 2023?

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Whataboutism doesn't change the fact that Hamas has been targeting Israeli civilian population with rockets for years. Two things can be true at the same time.

[-] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago

The IDF was. Now do Hamas. The answer is that they were, too.

[-] cybersin@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Did hamas limit the food, water, and electric going into Israel too? Was Hamas making settlements inside Israel? Was Hamas controlling the border and movement of Israelis? Was Hamas controlling the outcome of Israels elections?

Hamas bad, but Israel made Hamas.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -5 points 7 months ago

Did hamas limit the food, water, and electric going into Israel too?

They would if they could. Instead they took the aid meant for their population and used it to build tunnels and rockets effectively resulting in the same thing except they're doing it to their own population.

[-] Nutteman@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Not before they were created as a response to Israeli occupation in '87... Israel forced Palestinians into gaza and the west Bank in the late 40s. So around 50 years of trying to deal with occupation without Hamas. That's a long time to be subjugated and not have some sort of extremist group gain power. So if we do the math... yeah israel and the colonial powers that helped create it have been the bad guy far more often than Hamas. By raw body count alone Israel comes out looking like a monster.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago

Blindly shooting rockets at the civilian population in Israel for years, raping and murdering civilians on october 7th and using their own civilian population as human shields are few that come to mind.

[-] cybersin@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago

IDF drops bombs on the homes of any man, killing entire families at once. "Human shields" do not exist, there is no point. The IDF has shown they will happily shoot through the civilians anyways.

[-] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee -4 points 7 months ago

Moron. Hamas commit war crimes as a matter of course. How can you be so intellectually dishonest in your arguments?!

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