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Uh violating First Amendment rights? The parade organizers are a private entity not the government. It's too bad a representative in state legislature doesn't understand the Constitution.
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So he's saying the security/safety claim is bullshit.
Now he's saying it isn't.
I thought the GOP was all about private entities refusing service to whoever they want and in a bigger sense less regulation from the 'nanny' government. I guess that only applies when they are being 'discriminated' against.
the goal is to bankrupt the organization as much as possible and he's using the legal system to do so; if the organization doesn't respond, he automatically wins in this legal system, so they must spend $$$ on lawyers to fight the lawsuit.
If he wins he opens the door for people he doesn't like to do the same.
That is a fight for tomorrow, right now this private entity needs to "respect his authoritah" and FIRST AMENDMENT rights.
An organization like this already has lawyers on staff, and it should be trivial to get this case dismissed before it starts.
The GOP is all about conservativism. Conservativism is abject narcissism dressed up like a political ideology, but there are no fundamentally conservative ideals. I suppose you could call it "hyper-intersectional identity politics," but really it's just selfishness. The conservative will say or do anything as long as they believe it benefits the conservative. They are righteous because of who they are, and they are justified by their faith in themselves.
So when it benefits the conservatives to support a private business refusing service, then it is a moral absolute that private businesses can refuse service. When they are refused service, it is a crime against humanity to create such inequality. These two ideas appear contradictory, even hypocritical, from the outside, but they are fully rational to conservatives who are inside the circle.
It's the "outgroups to bind, in groups to protect" thing. That's all.
Or the other angle on it: "you don't tell me what to do. I tell you what to do."
It's a shitty world view held by shitty people.
I agree with what you are saying but you are confusing Republicans for Conservatives. I believe it is possible for a reasonable Conservative to exist, that has different priorities than Liberals but has coherent arguments and the ability to work with others. I don't believe a reasonable Conservative could support the Republicans.
In a reasonable country a reasonable Conservative would probably look a lot like Joe Biden.
It is not possible for a reasonable Conservative to exist, because Conservativism isn't a reasonable ideology. There are no permanently conservative priorities, because each conservative defines conservative values around their own definition for who is included in their version of conservativism.
I know you're probably running down a list in your head of all the values that you associate with stereotypical conservatives, but there isn't one of them where you won't find exceptions and rationalizations for why it's OK for conservatives to ignore those values. Their position inevitably changes when the position is not benefiting their in-group. They are anti-abortion, until they want an abortion. They are anti-inmigration, except for immigrants from their home country. They want low taxes, for themselves, and want to reduce spending on anything they don't directly benefit from.
Just about the only thing you could argue is exclusively conservative are most forms of bigotry. While there are certainly bigoted progressives, bigots are welcomed and supported in Conservative parties as long as they fit within the defition of the self.
Get out of here with your "logic." /s