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[-] Sordid@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I also have a lot of playtime in it, but most of it wasn't really quality time. I tried real hard to like the game, but in hindsight I should've given up on it way sooner. Even with all the tabs, inventory management is still a nightmare. I hate the currency system with a passion, I resent the fact that there's no loot vacuum, I despise having to manually identify items. I don't like trading, and trying to find my own gear was like being rolled around in a zorbing ball made out of sandpaper. There's way too much friction everywhere in the system for no good reason. I love the core gameplay, the monsters have cool designs and are fun to kill, the skills feel punchy and satisfying to use... It's just the overarching structure built around that that ruins it for me. Shame.

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

I resent the fact that there’s no loot vacuum

Can you elaborate?

[-] Sordid@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

In modern ARPGs, you automatically pick up currency just by being near it. In PoE, you have to individually click each currency item to pick it up. Given that PoE has a very sophisticated loot filter system, I find it very strange that it requires so much clicking to pick stuff up. You've already decided what loot you want to pick up when you set up your loot filter, so the clicking is mostly superfluous and could be automated. IMO that would make the game play much better, since having to stop to pick up loot interrupts the gameplay and breaks the flow.

[-] Skray@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

That would require every player even new ones to make very complex loot filters and understand what loot is valuable and not to automate it.

Every item in PoE that is automatically picked up doesn't take up inventory space (Metamorph organs, Expedition fragments, Sulphite, Azurite). The concept is that players make an active decision of what they're picking up and that they're aware of what they have because they made an active decision to pick it up.
It doesn't take control of their inventory away from the players.

It also feeds into the dopamine loop, when you get an exciting drop you see it on the ground it doesn't automatically just get sucked into your inventory.

[-] Sordid@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

That would require every player even new ones to make very complex loot filters and understand what loot is valuable and not to automate it.

No, it wouldn't, because it would not be mandatory (just like loot filters themselves aren't).

Every item in PoE that is automatically picked up doesn’t take up inventory space (Metamorph organs, Expedition fragments, Sulphite, Azurite).

You're this close to getting it. The extremely limited inventory space in PoE and other ARPGs is a severe design defect, the games would be much better if inventory space was simply infinite. I've had a long and complex discussion about this very topic with someone just a day or two ago, so I don't feel like explaining myself on this point all over again. Feel free to check that if you're interested.

It also feeds into the dopamine loop, when you get an exciting drop you see it on the ground it doesn’t automatically just get sucked into your inventory.

That would be much better solved by having a pop-up show you the exciting drop as you automatically pick it up. That way the player would still get their dopamine hit without the game also constantly filling their annoyance meter by making them pick up garbage manually.

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