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Just a heads up to everyone, quitting Spotify and buying / "procuring" your own music and playing it via a music player makes reading this quite cathartic. Do it for the moral superiority and self esteem boost for no effort you come to the internet for anyways.
How do you even buy music anymore?
There's quite a few ways actually:
If none of the above has worked, this is no longer an issue about whether you want to pay for the product or not, it's a supplier problem.
I've never seen an artist on Bandcamp that I actually recognize.
Telling anyone to "just Google it" is proof that you have no interest in a good faith discussion.
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asdfasdfsadfasfasdfYou don't know what you're talking about.
Please elaborate. Because they're right, and you are wrong. And they reasoned in what way.
Just Google it.
You're just throwing a tantrum at this point
People fighting on the internet.
This is a great example of the rude way to use that phrase.
There's no other way. That's the point. 💡
Bandcamp is good for indie artists and if you want to discover new artists. I've found quite a few diamonds in the rough on there. A surprising amount of metal / punk artists sell via Bandcamp if you're into that.
How is 'just Google it" not a valid option? This is literally how you can find 99% of all problems about the internet especially for finding where to legally buy digital products within the first few websites. You know what is good for business when you're trying to sell a product? Making sure its one of the first few, if not the first choice the customer gets when looking at the default search engine.
Moving on from that I'm guessing getting in contact with the artist is not an option? Y'know the other 2 points?
Are you sure you responded to the correct comment? 🤔
Can I play devil's advocate a little bit here, because I was really unaware that this ever worked for anything except indie artists on Bandcamp. So Bandcamp works for them or for discovering new music obviously.
I didn't know artists ever sold digital music on their websites, but that does make sense, so I checked - if I google Taylor Swift and go to her website, there it is, digital music purchase. Great.
I went to U2's website, and the only music I can buy there is vinyl. I don't want vinyl, I want digital. You can buy merch, but I'm after music, not merch. Looking further, there's all sorts of galleries and information about each album and song, but you still can't buy the music.
Other mainstream artists I googled didn't even go that far. Googling them brought up a wikipedia link, social media links, tours. All stuff I don't want. Now your list has "contact artist via social media" - setting aside the fact that it's unlikely a popular mainstream artist will even reply to anyone at all about anything, this is a real point of friction. I don't want to have to contact an artist to find out some alternative way to get their music. If I'm buying something online, there needs to be some way to buy it online and ready to go. If we have to wait a couple of days or weeks for a reply that may or may not come - the process failed.
If I had to guess, they would probably say something like "it's on spotify".
So yes it probably is a supplier problem, but it seems to me that this is happening for the majority of popular artists if a majority of music people like is mainstream. I assume if you like the majority of indie music then that's probably not the case.
No worries, I'll take your U2 example and try it from my end (I don't listen to them so I can't decide on what album(s) specifically you are looking for). I'm going to be frank, it was a pain, but I did find zdigital (7digital outside of Australia) selling their albums without physical media. But getting there, I had to see that the U2 website/publisher website did not even advertise it. It was like the 5th option on duckduckgo after searching for
I'm sure you would have better luck if you slide in the specific album that you were looking for.
Important to note is that you aren't googling for that artist or album, you're googling
I do agree with you that mainstream artists and publishers are going down this route probably due to some deals with streaming services, but unfortunately that is the reality we live in now. Additional work will be required by the consumer to get what they want. If the publishers start completely stopping this at some point all I can say is that I have the disposable income to buy the products I want and I am going to get it. Whether the publishers sell it to me or not is their decision to make.
I suspect that big artists are making so much from streaming that they're not concerned with direct to consumer. And that's fine because they are the easiest to torrent.
Bandcamp or whatever downloads website for small and torrent for big.
Also, when it comes to specific platforms, Apple Music is quite good, though they make it rather painful to buy music if you use Linux
It is to be noted that while iTunes is DRM-free at this point (which is very nice and surprised me when I found out) it is unfortunately still lossy compressed audio which the perfectionist in me really doesn't like :P
Come on Apple, sell me your funny ALAC, you have it for Apple Music anyway
It is now? That's cool Would have been nice to not have lost my entire childhood library because it was locked behind iTunes.
Oh, I wasn't aware of that. It doesn't bother me that much, since I personally can't tell the difference in audio quality, but that's still unfortunate to know
I mean same, but I'd still like to have lossless audio regardless :P
I feel like piracy and moral superiority don't really belong together
You are clearly not aware of the windfall profits corporations are making, and that they are then passing exactly none of it on to the workers generating that profit
Yeah the moral thing to do is pay a third party company $130 per year who then pays an artist $0.20 per billion streams of their work.
I mean the moral thing is just to not buy the product if you have an issue with it.
I have no problem with piracy, but pretending you're some sort of hero for doing it is ridiculous
How is that the moral avenue? You want these artists to fade into obscurity because nobody can ever hear their music while also not earning any money?
Not saying Bandcamp are the good guys but at least you have an option. And today is Bandcamp Friday, when artists keep 100% of the sales!
We run our Navidrome server at home and listen to our music using clients such as Feishin and Tempo (Android).
It is a moral imperative to pirate EA, Ubisoft and Nintendo.
A popular myth, but a myth nonetheless.
I always try to buy my music first, digital only though. I don't have space for CDs or the like. If the option is not available (not common), the tricorn goes on. And normally I would go through any loophole I can find to get it legally. But damn, the Japanese really don't like doing business with foreigners.
What kind of japanese stuff do you listen to? I might be able to recommend a place
Truer words have never been spoken
When I was a teenager I would save my lunch money to order CDs from CD Japan