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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Propaganda doesn't totally rob people of ~~agency~~ free will (more accurate term), if it did this site wouldn't exist. People do have the capacity to develop critical thinking, skepticism, and a basic curiosity about the world that allow them to develop some resistance to propaganda.

You can hold people accountable for failing to even attempt to do this.

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago

you have material life dice rolls to start even asking questions shrug-outta-hecks

Just as mass propaganda of "everything is going great" hits a wall in the bottom part of society, "the everything is shit" hits similar wall in the owning part of society.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

To repeat something I said elsewhere in this thread, isn't the end logic of this just hard determinism? Can we not judge anyone for anything really cuz we're all just prisoners of our fate?

Also I do have to ask, is everyone really consistent with this whole not feeling superior to people with dumb beliefs? Cuz I don't it based on the content of this site. I'm pretty sure y'all feel superior to any anti-vaxxers you've met in your journeys, as you should because it's a fucking horribly uninformed position with tons of publicly available, easily consumable info debunking it.

[-] AdmiralDoohickey@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You don't need to emotionally judge someone who is malicious to want to stop them from doing harm. I don't see how us being against nazis is incompatible with thinking that we could have ended like them in their shoes

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

I don't see how us being against nazis is incompatible with thinking that we could have ended like them in their shoes

I think there are certain "turning points" in a person's life where they either go down a dark road or they don't. I definitely had a point in my 20s where the far right seemed tempting but I didn't go there, it's the easy option, actually learning about the world is harder. I reserve my right to judge people who did.

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