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[-] Magician@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

Don't even get me started on Mr Incredible. Helen Parr is so lucky. He cares about his kids, he has super strength and durability so you don't have to worry about him getting hurt outside.

He lost his passion when he couldn't be a super hero anymore and then he gets his shit together once he starts doing it illegally. Okay out of context that sounds really really bad, but bear with me. The plot is started when superheroes aren't allowed to be superheroes anymore. The narrative is that being a superhero is 100% good. He's so passionate about being good that it's killing him that he isn't allowed to be.

The only thing wrong with him is that he's not usually paying attention to the evils of capitalism. The

He did fuck up an insurance ghoul, so there's that.

But yeah, he's good. He'd go out every day wearing the same thing to do a thankless job for a world that is honestly pretty shitty. Remind you of someone? marx-war (also I'm so glad for the emojis here. Jesus Christ)

He doesn't care about the neighbors think. I'm so glad they didn't show him being obsessed with lawn care.

Anyway, yeah. Elastigirl is cool, but I'm built different.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

Sorry, the incredibles is eugenics as fuck

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

Oh I know the movie itself is. It's libertarian bullshit and great man theory and shit, but I think if the setting and narrative were more realistic (like what kind of brainworms do you need to believe that being born with something can make you better than someone else.)

But now that you mention it, I've been thinking a lot about the character as written and the character as desired.

Like fanfiction or headcanons. I have a lot of characters I like who are depicted through countries that publish reactionary media. It's all going to be tainted by capitalism to some extent. So what compromises can I make to engage with art and enjoy it.

At what point is it reactionary to idealize a fictional character? I know it's not healthy to do, but fictional characters might be the only role models someone has growing up. Or just the only way to see someone like themselves.

For me personally, I like to think about a character as a real person and then correct the details of the story to make it make sense. Or I'll go fanfic mode and have a category in my brain like "If (problematic character) got his shit together." I like seeing a story and then trying to make the character able to make things right.

Sorry if it feels like I'm rambling.

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