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Finally deleted my reddit account after the AI news. What communities do you recommend on lemmy? (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago by mesamunefire@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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Ive been on reddit for more than a decade. Kinda bittersweet, but its not the first time I have moved on from an internet site. I just cant support reddit and sucking up all my posts for AI purposes. Feels terrible and spammy. Ive been a reddit premium holder for many many years.

Anyways, what communities do you recommend?

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

I just want to say that creating a precedent of not allowing AI models to train on free content essentially means that when the models get cheap enough for average joes to train their own, average joes won’t be able to.

We’ll have to use the models owned by huge corporations with deep pockets, because those will be the only legal ones.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 8 months ago

Also, if people think that Lemmy posts won't be trawled by content farmers looking to train their AI, I've got a bridge to sell them.

Reddit's deal is about locking content away from trawlers until they pay for it. Here, it's free for all of them. They can even set up their own servers and the fediverse will deliver it to them in real time.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Also, if people think that Lemmy posts won’t be trawled by content farmers looking to train their AI, I’ve got a bridge to sell them.

Yeah that's the thing, part of the reason why I'm so confused. Reddit can literally just crawl any posts on Lemmy, it's exactly the same in that sense. Public is public, after all.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

That’s a sort of realpolitik view of the web, based on using tech and engineering convention to control information flow on the web.

But the web standards we’ve used to regulate things aren’t in agreement with the new legal framework people are trying to implement, and if we allow them to make their legal argument unopposed, they will add new layers to the tech to change web standard behavior into dystopian centrally controlled network behavior.

I agree the web is an open platform, and I agree that copyright law is clear. But these people are not operating on trying to follow existing rules. They’re trying to create new rules, and they have the power to do so.

And no, they do not RTFM . They think a greenfield rewrite is the best move for society, because they have zero respect for the engineering decisions of yesterday, not for the challenge or the value of maintaining existing systems.

[-] MarsAgainstVenus@fedimav.win 3 points 8 months ago

Maybe I just haven’t had enough coffee yet, but I’m having a hard time determining which side you’re on. Are you saying it’s good that reddit is doing this?

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

I see myself as advocating for one set of ideas out of a sea of ideas and an ocean of such sets. Sides are for basketball games.

Generally speaking, I’m a libertarian but to me the word is about liberty not lack of responsibility.

I’ll take:

UBI
Free drugs
Corporations competing with one another to provide basic necessities
Personhood granted liberally. When it doubt, give it rights
AI being trained on copyrighted material
AI or its owner being taken to task when the AI publishes copyrighted material verbatim without attribution
A free market specifically because freedom allows the little guy to get ahead before the big guy builds the mechanism to keep him down
Simple government
Red commits

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