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A conservative group that claimed to uncover a ballot stuffing scheme in Georgia has told a judge it has no evidence to back up its allegations.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To be fair (and I’m being generous cause fuck these people), they might have believed lies from others who they thought they’d call as witnesses. A lot of people believed Trump’s lies. I could see people who wanted to believe putting themselves on the line in ways that were risky because they were so certain.

But liars are pretty typical with maga fucks, so that’s also a fair assumption.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You're not wrong but it doesn't change the overall situation. This in particular is the crux of the issue for me:

A lot of people believed Trump’s lies.

If you believed that Trump was a trustworthy individual by the time the 2020 election rolled around then you were, at best, stupid. To be clear, I don't mean that as a juvenile insult or a way to dehumanize people I disagree with. What I mean is that, in the most generous interpretation of the situation, you were unaware of how often and about what subjects Trump refused to be truthful both before and during his presidency. In addition to this ignorance, you also held very strong opinions about subjects you clearly had no interest in educating yourself on, namely the fact that he's so obviously full of shit. These opinions were strong enough that you were willing to overlook the historical anamoly of being impeached two separate times in order to vote for this man. Now, perhaps it is a bit incendiary to state it so bluntly, but I don't know what else to call a categorical refusal to engage the rational part of your brain other than stupidity.

Clearly there are Trump supporters who are stupid for reasons other than I've outlined here. My point is simply that the above scenario is about as open minded as you could reasonably be when evaluating the motivations of a Trump supporter and my conclusion is still that they are idiots. I think we're well past the point where it's necessary to make excuses for them.

[–] tristan@aussie.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the first step be to verify BEFORE filling with the courts?

The groups might be complete morons but their lawyers should have at least verified the sources before taking it on

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Wouldn’t the first step be to verify BEFORE filling with the courts?

Yes... if you're not a Trump voter who believed his election lie and are therefore not very smart.