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Can someone provide some context here? Why is he screaming at a coach?
Also side note: why is that even vaguely tolerable behavior for a professional sports player / role model?
He had one target for one yard in the first half. Travis Kelce is the best TE currently in the NFL and considered to be the third best ever to play the game.
Since all the receivers for the Chiefs are mid at best this year, he's got some reason to be pissed. One of them, Kadarius Toney, was put on the gameday injury report for the AFCCG as being out for a leg injury and "personal reasons". He then went public saying his leg was perfectly fine and he had no personal reasons to skip the game... Basically clarifying that the actual reason he wasn't playing was because he's ass.
But Travis Kelce was also being guarded by Fred Warner during the first half who is one of the best linebackers in NFL history.
It could be a diva moment, sure. But it's the Super Bowl. Good teams know that you trust your studs. Romo would throw to Dez in double or triple team coverage, knowing he'd come down with it. Peyton Manning would chuck it at Marvin Harrison no matter who was on him. When someone is that good, all you've got to do is get the ball in their vicinity. Either they'll come down with it or they'll keep the defenders from getting it.
It's still stupid to yell at your coach like that and physically push him, but Andy Reid was making a lot of boneheaded decisions in the first. They went into halftime down 10-3. They did change things up during the second half, though. Kelce ended up with 9 receptions for 93 yards while the Chiefs won 25-22 in OT.
I understood nothing. But I feel like you know what you are talking about. I heard about that Payton guy.
That sounds very unsportsmanlike. He is better than everyone so gets mad when he doesn't always get to play?!? That's not ok. That's real loser behavior.
Its not a participation award game. It's the game of games. It's not about kelce not getting to play. It's about the chiefs losing because they're not utilizing their best weapon. It's a team sport and you're watching your team lose because you're not being used.
Imagine being on a competitive team project and you're the best speaker presenting to the state but your teacher decides to let the shy kids try to present, clearly bumbling and being incoherent, letting your opponents out argue every point your peers are making when you clearly can out speak them. You'd be pretty upset with your teacher for getting you to states, you being the reason you're there, and then once you're there you're sidelined.
Maybe the coach knows better than the player though.
I agree on his decision. Yeah they were down a touchdown and extra point at the end of the first half, but the 49ers tired themselves out while Kelcey was just getting started.
Eh, sitting through Packers games during the McCarthy years, I wouldn't assume that.
some of these are words, yes.
Yeah, I'm still confused too 😆
I believe in this case, Kelce missed the block on the player that caused the fumble, or maybe it was a different tight end.
This is it. The 2nd string tight end was in for that play and whiffed on the block that led to the fumble. Kelce was screaming "Leave me in, leave me in," which is a fair point because he's a monster blocker. I'd give the edge to Kittle for blocking, but still really good.
Kelce wasn't in the game when that fumble happened, but he would have been in position to make that block. He was basically telling Reid to leave him in the game because it's the Super Bowl and he's the better player.
I still don't understand why he was yelling though. What did the coach do that he was angry about?
edit: Oh, he wasn't playing him? Yeah that makes more sense.
From what I’ve seen over the years acting like a complete dick head is just part of the sport.
They are over paid Neanderthals for the most part.
Not a huge sports fan or competitive player, but you will see a great deal of confidence/arrogance in the elite in many fields (even when the elite aren't chosen by competence). This guy, whose existence I wasn't even aware of a month ago, is certainly in that category.
As for overpaid, I don't agree. Overvalued, certainly.
The two are synonymous as far as I am concerned. What do you consider the difference?
If my services can be sold for a reasonable price and I get paid an exorbitant amount, I'm over paid. If my services are sold for a ridiculous amount and I get paid a reasonable portion of those earnings, I'm overvalued but not overpaid.
If you want to look at it another way. Why are people paying $1 billion for a super bowl commercial spot? Because they think it will give them visibility worth that amount. But the real question is why are viewers paying that much consideration to a super bowl ad? They are overvalued.
The chiefs fumbled, and that guy thought he should have been in, so they wouldn't have lost the ball. I believe that he is screaming, "just leave me in the game" like every play.
Why it's tolerated, not sure.
Cause he's one of the best tight ends to ever play the game. Might be addressed in the off-season though.
Nah, the screaming is uncalled for no matter who you are. I don't care how many sports he balled.
Let's hope he doesn't Icarus the fuck out. It wasn't even close to his best season. The chiefs are doing this whole villains thing anyway. Maybe it gets them three in a row but I know if you even if you're just pretending to be a villian you start looking at yourself that way. It's just not sustainable.
He brings in an enormous amount of money for the team and league. Make enough money and you can treat whoever you want, however you want. It's not morally right, but it's true.
It's tolerated because he's literally the best player in his position in the entire world (and one of the best in the history of the entire sport). What are the going to do? Get rid of him?
If you're not one of the best, the behavior is not tolerated as much.
Andy Reid tolerated it because he knows that the violent psychopaths playing for him are hopped up on a variety of drugs and need to be cut a little slack.
Let's say you got 2 people whose job it is to write job proposals. One guy does it, and the company wins the job and people have work. The other guy just doesn't write the proposal. The job goes somewhere else and people are laid off. This is the first guy yelling at his boss to let him write the 2nd proposal. Youre the boss. Do you tolerate the yelling, or do you tolerate the failure to do the job?
Neither. I fire the person who doesn't write the proposal and I discipline the yeller. If I'm the boss, I'm not about to nurture a culture where any employee who thinks they know better than me gets to barge into my office to scream in my face.
So you do what Reid did then...
None of these people will ever be laid off lol
You realize they fire a ton of people every year in the NFL, right? Kelce will eventually be one of them when he gets old, unless he decides he's done before he isn't good anymore.