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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.

For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.

Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.

Source: https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 172 points 11 months ago

I'm fucking enraged man. I hope we can regulate these assholes.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 75 points 11 months ago

There is a very easy solution. Don't buy apple.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 115 points 11 months ago

That's not a solution. It's a way for you to avoid the problem. It does nothing to help the millions of people who are already deeply invested in the Apple ecosystem.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 37 points 11 months ago
[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Not a solution.

This not only has a time and effort cost attached to it but selling your used hardware to buy new hardware is always a bad value proposition.

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[-] oo1@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago
[-] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

Don't buy! Don't buy!

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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 21 points 11 months ago
[-] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Not sure if it's a fallacy if it's about addressing people who have spent a ton on an ecosystem and can't just devote more money to buy the alternative and time to figure out the parts that aren't compatible

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[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

That is the solution though, always has been. Vote with your wallet.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Yeah, let's ignore the entire history of labor, environmental, safety, and product regulations, and believe everything is the way it is because of our dogmatic free market feefees.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Lol for a moment there I thought I was going off the rails with my puffa jacket rant above, but your segway into "free market feefees" is far more unhinged.

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[-] LWD@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago
[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Lol that's basically the Brave attitude, drown out the controversy with a marketing campaign and pull in more new unsuspecting users than the ones you lose.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

voting with your wallet doesn't work when most people would buy anyway (whether it's because they're ignorant, trapped to do so, etc)

The minority of people that actually care and know about privacy and software freedom is just a tiny statistic in Apple's perspective, so voting with your wallet doesn't work.

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[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You cannot root out the evil from within such massive companies. Nvidia still has a stranglehold on the market with CUDA. Literally the only thing one can do is to employ their wallet towards more fruitful endeavours, like donating and purchasing Android in this case. People who are invested into Apple are going to have to face that they made a choice moving away from freedom, even though I understand that staying the odd one out socially isn't a lot of fun. There's nothing to be done here unless someone with a lot of money and lawyers sues Apple. Know anyone willing to do that?

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[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People should fully own the computers they buy, regardless of which company they buy from.

This means root access and a replacable primary bootloader, let alone just being able to install apps not on a curated market (what Apple calls sideloading). macOS and Windows both manage to allow root access, and so do certain Android devices (and obviously other OSs as well). Replacable primary bootloaders are more rare, though, especially in ARM devices due to efuse-based secure boot in the CPU that is impossible to turn off. There's only one phone I can think of that allows for replacing the primary bootloader (Shift 6mq).

We shouldn't allow for artificial restrictions placed by corporations on devices they sell, because as we have seen time and time again, companies copy each others' restrictions, especially Apple. Same goes with game consoles, IoT devices, Smart TVs, etc. And before you mention the potential for piracy, DRM is an artificial restriction placed by corporations, and should also be removed from devices.

Anything less means that you don't own the device that you paid for.

Apple is clearly attempting to comply with the EU DMA in bad faith so that they can maintain as much control over their users and app developers as possible.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

boycotts barely work, and doubly so when the company has a legion of faithful fanbois and its among the biggest corporations on the planet.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I don't. Many people do. To protect their very clear monopolistic goals, we need to protect consumers from this stuff.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Why do you hate consumer protection law?

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[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 months ago

And that's coming from someone who has "applelover" in their username. They fucked up big time by pissing off even their most loyal fans.

(/j)

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Honestly, I don't know how many normies this will upset. Pretty much only techies follow this and the people being annoyed by it might just blame the app developer and not Apple. Time will tell

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 16 points 11 months ago

I mean, this is basically malicious compliance. They did everything in their power to follow the letter but eschew the spirit of the law. Let’s hope the EU has teeth and keeps applying pressure.

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