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I notice the talking points have shifted around to "the Democrats all wanted it to be someone else" in the last couple of days. It's the kind of fact-free criticism that can worm its way into people's minds and is tough to counteract.
OP constantly posts that talking point.
I've decided to start using "block" like a Usenet killfile -- basically it doesn't have to be a big deal, just someone whose content I'd prefer not to see.
I blocked them, realized I couldn't reply to you with this message once I did, then unblocked them, and plan to reblock right after sending this.
Gotta get your blocks in 😉 (I understand)
People burying their head in the sand wont change his numbers.
Yes, look at these terrible numbers.
If I didn't know any better, I'd say he could win on that poll just based on the margin of error.
But oh so terrible numbers.
A shitload of democrats and just about all independents to the left of the DNC (which is millions if not tens of millions of potential voters) DID want someone else and still do, though.
Especially since he's stubbornly refusing to depart from his unconditional support for the Israeli apartheid regime even as more and more voters do.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying that he's not a MUCH lesser evil than Trump or that anyone who can shouldn't vote for him.
That doesn't mean that he's above criticism or universally popular amongst everyone to the left of the fascist GOP. Which are supposed to be the people he's representing.
That's always true in every election, and should be. If it were most Democrats, someone might have beat Biden in the primaries, but they won't.
I'm getting old. Biden is the farthest left president of my lifetime and there's no major candidate running to his left this year.
No way to know for sure since the primaries are controlled by the party leadership, all of whom are firmly pro-Biden and some of whom have been known to rig the contests in favor of their preferred candidates before.
No. Even Obama was further left and he was very much a Clintonite too.
Some of Congress and some on Biden's cabinet (most of which were appointed on the advice of others) are further left, but Biden himself is just barely to the left of Joe Manchin.
Because they're literally not allowed to by the DNC leadership.
"Someone else" sure. But not anyone on the ballot. For me they'd need to be both more progressive AND have a shit's chance of beating Trump. Bernie maybe but he's not going to pull centrist votes nor will he dodge the age question. Biden is, unfortunately, our best shot at retaining democracy for another 4 years.
Bernie could have done it in 2016 and in 2020, but not this round. Biden did actually win the big party, so you stick with the horse that runs.
Bernie couldn't even win the Democratic primary, how was he gonna win the general?
Bernie was running away with it both times, before ratfuckery ensued. You can live in denial of it, but whatever, it happened.
Bernie wasn't running away with it in 2016. I say this as someone who voted for Bernie in both 2016 and 2020. Bernie put up an amazing showing for an old socialist from Vermont against the DNC's crown princess with some 30+ years of national fame and name recognition, but he was never in serious reach of the nomination.
In 2020 he was very close, but he got outplayed, unfortunately, by the moderates who united against him, and the other progressive in the race who chose to stay in and split the vote and crush what chance he had.
But cant find his way off stage?
Meh, whatever.
He's trash, but he's the best shot we've got at keeping the wheels on this shit cart.
Yeah. And yet no one can name an alternative.
(disclaimer am not American) I say Biden is fine for the US despite his faults and mistakes, but President Sanders would be the best alternative if the world could have one.