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[-] snek@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

he punishment for a crime is dictated by the society you perform the crime

Sorry, do you think the punishment for being accused by an IDF soldier off-duty and a Settler pretending to be IDF is being shot to death? Is that, like, in the Israli constitution? Because if it isn't, your argument falls apart... since these people did murder a teenager with no charge, which (as much as Israel fucking sucks as a country) is still illegal.

Too bad this fucking time he's a goddamn American Palestinian.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago

Well, that's another very interesting debate. Are the laws of a country what is written on the paper, or how things actually get enforced? One could say that America's laws are (mostly) not racist, but how it gets enforced absolutely is, isn't it?

If throwing a rock gets you shot, and society allows that to happen regularly, then that is the punishment for that crime. You can dislike it, and that society can dislike it, but it is what it is. Isn't it?

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 3 points 9 months ago

You're tap-dancing around the point. Killing that boy is regarded as a human rights violation and your opponent wants you to address the crime as one.

As if it would fuckin' matter which country it was in anyway. Murder is universally banned in all countries. It's one of the few universal morals humanity has.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

The punishment for that crime is the one in the law on a technical level. This makes mob justice a crime, and people who murder others for no reason criminals. /:

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The proposed punishment is the one written in law. But if no one ever receives that punishment, then that's not the punishment, is it?

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 0 points 9 months ago

You're missing the point too. In fact, by your logic, genocide is legal. Laws are used to do evil things and they're not the source of morality nor do they dictate right and wrong.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Hmmm funny how I never said that.

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