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"I backed up my stance with studies instead of general feels"
"lmao what a dumbass"
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It takes 20 seconds to find a paper. On anything.
In 1 minute, you can find 5 papers to back up a claim .. 30 minutes with GPT and you can write your own fucking paper. …
Of course, there are often a further 5 papers out there arguing opposite, because that’s how research works. But nobody seems interested in that. Someone just names “two papers !” And you are sold. Just. like. that. The argument is over for you.
I have to ask, Are you 12 ? Or brand new to the internet or something ?
That why it's important for it to not just be a "paper" but an actual source. Then you can check who wrote it, who published it, and what the specific study was. As in, read the published study they cited and you'll see what the parameters were and how they got to the conclusion purported. It's not just "I found that somebody on the internet somewhere said x, here's a link to the Twitter post." Be skeptical and call out shitty sources, but ignoring the entire concept of backing up a claim with evidence is pretty silly. In the current era of plaguing disinformation and misinformation, it's important to be well-versed in thinking critically about what we are told.
Mate, how are you trying to find a difference between citing a paper and citing a source ? The paper IS the source. The paper IS the study.
I genuinely don’t know what you’re trying to do here.
The entire point is that is trivial to quote papers, or sources, if you prefer.
Ergo, someone hooting about citing two sources (without mentioning them, by the way) is only a zinger if you are naive to social media arguments.
I really don’t know what’s so hard about it.
If you think you can just have chat gpt write you a paper that you can use as a source, then you don't understand what a source is. Drawing a false equivalency either indicates that you don't know how to differentiate between valid sources and invalid sources or that you're intentionally attempting to fracture public faith in the entire concept of fact-checking in order to further the spread of disinformation for objectively questionable motives. I don't have a tin foil hat on right now, so I'll just assume that you're uninformed and could benefit from reading a book on the subject or taking a class on it.
It's easier to dismiss all evidence and just believe whatever feels right, but the common people will have what little money and power they have sucked away from them if lies are permitted to influence who to give their money and power to. There is a real benefit to controlling narrative and swaying public opinion, so the people being equipped to identify weaponized disinformation is a valuable defense for basic democratic function and individual prosperity.
That's why I feel the need to respond to what you're saying. At best, you're accidentally sowing distrust in an essential skill set in the modern information age; at worst, you're intentionally attacking the working class at the behest of the ruling/owning class. Again, no tin foil hat, so I think you just didn't understand what the logical conclusion of what you were saying was.
I guess you aren't interested in having an actual conversation here, but that doesn't make it okay to just insult a stranger just because you can't keep up. I encourage you to consider the possibility that you're wrong about some things and that other people might know more than you about those things, and maybe you should accept their attempts to help you to understand more about the world you live in. Otherwise, you're gonna be very lonely when your peers have all outgrown you and moved on.
Nice strawman
You don’tt even know what a straw man is
And you don't know what a source is.
I just assumed everyone knew what “paper” meant, in the context of quoting studies.
Apparently they, and you, do not.
Quit being smug and cryptic, out with your point.
You claimed that they see a single source and are just satisfied based on the existence of any paper. That is not an accurate or justified interpretation of their statement.
Studies suggesting something don't definitively prove it, sure, because, as you say, contrary evidence can exist. But no one claimed that - they just said studies "back it up". This is true. Studies can indeed "back up" claims.
Try harder, dear.
I hope you know better than to try homeschooling your child. You don't seem to have the patience, understanding, or wisdom necessary to teach a child anything positive or valuable past about 5th grade. You don't know what you're talking about and when people try to help you understand, you insist that you were right all along and resort to insults. You should really take an introspective look at yourself to try to figure out what it is about your life that's making you so bitter and frustrated and toxic at such a young age.