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The court says she died in Phoenix on Friday, of complications related to advanced dementia and a respiratory illness.

In 2018, she announced that she had been diagnosed with “the beginning stages of dementia, probably Alzheimer’s disease.” Her husband, John O’Connor, died of complications of Alzheimer’s in 2009.

O’Connor’s nomination in 1981 by President Ronald Reagan and subsequent confirmation by the Senate ended 191 years of male exclusivity on the high court. A native of Arizona who grew up on her family’s sprawling ranch, O’Connor wasted little time building a reputation as a hard worker who wielded considerable political clout on the nine-member court.

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's such a silly way of looking at it. Because Ginsburg couldn't predict the future magically, it falls on her and not the actual people hellbent on destroying Democracy. It's like victim-blaming where in this case, more of a burden is placed on the heroes to overperform than simply putting further responsibility on the villains necessitating 4D chess in the first place.

So I look at it the other way around. RBG didn't fail America; America -- specifically, ignorant Americans -- failed RBG when they did what the world -- and RBG -- didn't think possible and elected a complete dumbass.

[-] foofy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

What you're saying is a nice thought, but it's a game theory failure.

In a perfect world, yes, America would not have elected a narcissistic maniac. But in the real world, we did. And Ginsberg, who knew she was in poor health (had cancer like a bazillion times) opted to take a chance.

Maybe she just calculated poorly, or maybe this was a magnificent act of putting principle above pragmatism. Either way, Roe v. Wade was still overturned and so much for RGBs legacy. The smart move for an 80 year old woman with colon cancer is to find an offramp that lets her preserve her legacy.

I get it if you disagree, but I don't think it's hard to understand why people blame her at least in part for this mess.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Fair enough. I feel I understand at least some of why people are upset with her; but I don't think all of her critics sufficiently empathize with her position. From within her shoes, she devoted her life to a greater cause of the American people that far exceeds the scope of simply Roe V. Wade -- and in that, I think she earned the right to be selfish and believe in herself that she could ride out another term. Completely unfortunate with hindsight, but she beat her cancer once and was in otherwise pretty good health - living alone and doing pushups to boot. Being on the court was literally the thing keeping her alive in the first place.

It is what it is at this point. But I refuse to put as much emphasis on good people not acting perfectly, versus bad people doing everything wrong and causing the degradation of the system in the first place. Anyway, my apologies for saying my silly quip.

[-] foofy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

It's all good my bro. I understand where you're coming from.

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