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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 59 points 2 years ago (16 children)

If God can exist without being created by something, why can't the universe?

[–] m_f@midwest.social 31 points 2 years ago (14 children)

The argument I've heard is "It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we'll call that god". It's not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.

It's often paired with woo that falls down to simply asking "Why?", such as "Nothing could possibly be simpler than my deity"

[–] jadero@mander.xyz 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is this stop business? I have it on good authority that it's turtles all the way down.

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

It’s just the one turtle flying through space, the Great A'Tuin

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