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Image is from the January 2023 World Economic Forum meeting in Davos. Over 50 heads of state and 600 CEOs attended.


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Imagine a terrifying world where we are all ruled by monsters of every stripe. And not hot ones like werewolves, but instead decaying zombies and mummies who are both insensitive to, and actively benefit from the immense suffering they cause on a daily basis. The top echelon of society, filled with profit-seeking, bloodsucking vampires. And the worst of it is that they repeat on a daily basis that what they are doing is not only just, but there is no other possible way to do it.

Pretty spooky, right? What if I told you that this world... was our own?

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https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

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https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

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https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

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Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was in a leftlib Jewish discord server when the flood happened (I am a gentile) and there were a few zionists in there, and on day 2, they were already talking about this phrase being antisemitic. The media is just catching up to them now.

The worry among zionists and neutrals alike was that with so many having no "home" to return to outside of Israel, they would face antisemitism as a minority, and part of that seemed to stem from the unfortunate history of them facing pogroms over and over again and them worrying about this being another excuse to start one, so that long-term ongoing cultural history of trauma plays into it.

It's an element I dont suspect was there for South African whites when their apartheid ended. Yeah, the ruling class is going to rear retribution when they lose power, but white people in general don't have a lot of history of outright persecution either.

And I think that adds to the fear that many Israelis and many Jews have. I'm not sure how to talk around that, but I think assuaging those fears somehow is a critical part of of persuading the liberal Jews who could otherwise be moved left.

Appealing to justice for Palestinians alone isn't going to penetrate a trauma response. And its easy to tell Jewish chuds to fuck off, but leftlibs whobare otherwise radical on a lot of issues have that additional hurdle, and I don't suspect there's much that gentiles can say to address it

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure how to talk around that, but I think assuaging those fears somehow is a critical part of of persuading liberal Jews who cpuld otherwise be moved left.

IMO this is where socialism comes in. We can try and elevate the voices in the PFLP, DFLP, et al. Compared to say, religious theocrats or even secular liberals, us socialists can point to a genuine, historically consistent advocacy for truly equal rights for all without oppression. It’s not just talk, it’s a core value.

And I don’t want to speak for Palestinians, but honestly I would imagine in a situation where the one state solution was actually within our reach, I don’t think there would be any issue with having the United Nations or at least a consortium of nations like China that could step in and help ensure the establishment of a state that respects the rights of all, if that was a guarantee that Jewish citizens felt they would need.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone have any good reading suggestions related to this? To Israeli and Palestinian leftist perspectives and theory?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

religious theocrats

Worth keeping in mind; If we accept that Hamas are religious fanatics, we also need to accept that the Sharia provides laws requiring Muslims to protect Jewish and Christian people living under Islamic rule. idk if Hamas would follow those laws if there somehow came to be a Palestinian state incorporating all territory currently occupied by Israel, with a Hamas government and a Jewish majority population, but it at least needs to be considered and treated as one perspective from which to view possible future situations. Historically the application of these laws has varied from place to place and time to time; Some Islamic kingdoms and states have readily sent soldiers to protect religious minority populations from violence and persecution, while others have violently oppressed minority religious populations. But both of those situations are part of the political and religious history of Islam.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Word. I don't think there's anywhere in the world that would be willing to take in nine million Jewish people. Whatever happens, Israelis are staying in the Levant. That's just the reality now.

But it's worth remembering - Hamas changed it's charter years ago. It initially said that Hamas' enemy was Jewish people, but they changed it to specifically say that their enemy is Zionism, not Jewish people. idk how sincere they are about it, but it's at least possible to have truth and reconciliation within an apartheid state. Shit's still a mess in South Africa, but the end of Apartheid did not bring mass systematic deportation of white South Africans. This is all a fucking mess, but there's still, always, hope that humanity will prevail over hatred and violence, that some kind of just peace is possible. Back in the 90s, during the Oslo Accords, there was serious movement from Israel towards removing settlers from recently occupied areas. It's the primary reason Rabin was assassinated. The current situation was not fait-accompli. Likudniks and Kahanists worked hard and did plenty of murder, propaganda, and terrorism to get here. Human effort got us to this horrific situation, and I hope against hope that human effort can bring us somewhere better.

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