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I would be real disappointed if that was true
Also, why are pronouns bad when we do it?
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Wait thinking Johns are gross is being detached from reality now? Really? Have any of these people actually talked to anyone in real life? Even fucking dudebros hate on Johns and call them simps lmao. Like I'm telling you, you're not going to find much support for this in the real world. There's a reason men don't solicit sex workers in public and tell their wives about it.
There's a reason sex work models in some countries make "selling" legal but "buying" illegal. It's a real thing in the real world.
Didn't we just have an anti-SWERF struggle session a couple months ago? I thought the consensus was that sex has already been commodified and that sex work is no more "selling your body" than coal mining or any of a number of other jobs is, and that if you're taking particular offense to sex work you should seriously reconsider whether that energy is coming from a sexist slut-shaming puritanical place or truly from your leftist values.
I didn't take any particular stance on the issue because I'm neither sex worker, nor john, nor a woman. I guess I'm saying this partly to restate the strict anti-SWERF hexbear line, and partly to clarify my own understanding, not to attack you personally because I don't think you've said anything necessarily incompatible with this, but it could be taken that way.
this is the take SamPond at blahaj was mad at. being anti john isnt SWERF shit. being anti john is abt having solidarity with sex workers. sex workers are indeed workers as much as coal miners are. pimps and johns, however, are akin to coal mine owners in this analogy. johns are not mere consumers, they are directly exploiting the labor of sex workers.
In a later comment in this thread I clarified with
I am aware we are anti swerf, but I'm not aware of the specifics of the general site position or anyone else's thoughts on the matter.
They picked probably the worst possible example to prove how disconnected we are. Shoulda gone with the rock stacking struggle sesh smh
Yeah there's so many things they could have focused on, like outdoor cats vs indoor cats, rock stacking, our extremely weird in jokes, but they chose the one thing, which isn't even a general position on here, just the opinion of one user, in which their views line up with societies general outlook.
Has real "I'm pro sex work because I want to have sex with these women" vibes.
Painting the commodification of sex as emancipatory is peak radlib shit.
Real "touch grass" moment. 90% of people understand that decent humans do not enjoy coerced intimacy.
I like to point people to the "reviews" left by german johns or this essay by Esperanza Fonseca.
society’s general outlook is anti sex work. considering johns as rapists is basic solidarity w sex workers